X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:11:22 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [198.64.152.110] (HELO sdc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTP id 5199057 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:09:09 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.64.152.110; envelope-from=Ronald@sdc.com Received: from [192.168.1.102] [68.202.59.4] by sdc.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 486200009a2bc06d; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:05:59 -0500 From: Ronald STEVENS Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_72D46A5E-EA48-4146-AFC2-513A9B44D45B" Subject: Re: [LML] What would you do..... X-Original-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:08:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: <3A30BD8D-0FD6-468A-B06D-2EF8C19B42A6@sdc.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) --Apple-Mail=_72D46A5E-EA48-4146-AFC2-513A9B44D45B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Yep, this is the plane and the person. He is a very nice guy, just = mislead by greedy individuals. I have his number and will contact him to = see if I can reason with him first.=20 The CFII that was flying with him has fighter yet experience but that = doesn't qualify him as a Lancair 4p pilot, it just makes sure that he = can react fast when shit hits the fan. Right now the plane is in the hangar (because the EFIS is not working), = so I hope to catch them before that has been fixed. I do not like to be = a rat, but I also would have hard time living with myself if something = happens and I did not react on this pre-knowledge. Thanks for all the input -- Ronald =20 On Nov 14, 2011, at 7:44 AM, PAUL HERSHORIN wrote: > If this is the same individual I also know this individual--he has = about 200 hours total time. Every Tom Dick and Harry has worked on this = plane that have said that they are Lancair experts only to take his = $$$$$. He is a nice individual that is way over his head into this = plane. I am sure that he will be a statistic. To date I believe he has = never flown the plane by himself--I question the ability of some of the = individuals that have flown with him only because I do not know = them--CFII have high performance time but is it faster than a 4p? I = would say that a person should not be flying a Lancair until they have = 1,000 hours+ flying experience. This is just my opinion. I hope that = he parks this plane or sells it until he has more experience. I must = agree that this plane needs a total inspection including the engine--how = can someone put the turbo's on wrong if this is what actually happened? > =20 > Paul Hershorin > 360---471LA >=20 > --- On Sun, 11/13/11, Ronald STEVENS wrote: >=20 > From: Ronald STEVENS > Subject: [LML] What would you do..... > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Date: Sunday, November 13, 2011, 8:22 AM >=20 > Today I spoke with a CFII who was asking me for help regarding an = issue he has with a pilot who owns a Lancair 4p. >=20 > I am not calling names, so in case he is a follower of the LML, he can = take your advices.=20 >=20 > This plane has tons of issues, as a matter of fact the Cfii told me = that from the last 11 flights he had, 10 had emergencies, like engine = out, total loss of electrical power etc etc. >=20 > The plane has an OP technologies (old setup) avionics who is not = working right etc. >=20 > Above all this the owner is a low time pilot, and according to the = CFII he is flying the plane with 2 hands on the stick because he doesn't = know how to use the trim. >=20 > So when I was hearing this I was shocked and told him that he should = first get the plane checked out by somebody like Charlie Kohler and than = fix it and than sell it.=20 >=20 > The CFII told me that he already told him this but that he was = stubborn and doesn't want to sell..... >=20 > Now this is a next statistic waiting to happen and I really feel bad, = so what would you do? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ronald (110 hours Lancair 4p, 1400 hours with other planes lol) >=20 > On Nov 11, 2011, at 2:31 PM, "Russell" wrote: >=20 >> =20 >> =20 >> Originally I tried to be clever with installing mine in the copilots = naca vent. This did not work, we got erroneous numbers. The probe needs = to be out completely in the air to give you proper information. >>=20 >=20 > =20 > Mine is now installed on my legacy on the bottom side of the stub wing = in front of the spar about 6 inches away from the fuselage. This gave me = easy access through the access cover inside the cabin. Or easier said, = almost in front of the spar inner bolt. In that position we were = receiving accurate temperatures and information. >=20 > =20 > Regards >=20 > Russell Steiner >=20 > Legacy N2AA >=20 > G900 panel >=20 --Apple-Mail=_72D46A5E-EA48-4146-AFC2-513A9B44D45B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Yep, = this is the plane and the person. He is a very nice guy, just mislead by = greedy individuals. I have his number and will contact him to see if I = can reason with him first. 
The CFII that was flying with him = has fighter yet experience but that doesn't qualify him as a Lancair 4p = pilot, it just makes sure that he can react fast when shit hits the = fan.

Right now the plane is in the hangar = (because the EFIS is not working), so I hope to catch them before that = has been fixed. I do not like to be a rat, but I also would have hard = time living with myself if something happens and I did not react on this = pre-knowledge.

Thanks for all the input -- = Ronald
 
On Nov 14, 2011, at 7:44 AM, PAUL = HERSHORIN wrote:

If this is the same individual I also know this = individual--he has about 200 hours total time.  Every Tom Dick and = Harry has worked on this plane that have said that they are Lancair = experts only to take his $$$$$.  He is a nice individual that is = way over his head into this plane.  I am sure that he will be a = statistic.  To date I believe he has never flown the plane by = himself--I question the ability of some of  the = individuals that have flown with him only because I do not know = them--CFII have high performance time but is it faster than a 4p?  = I would say that a person should not be flying a Lancair until they have = 1,000 hours+ flying experience.  This is just my opinion.  I = hope that he parks this plane or sells it until he has more = experience.  I must agree that this plane needs a total inspection including the engine--how can someone put the turbo's on wrong if this = is what actually happened?
 
Paul Hershorin
360---471LA

--- On Sun, 11/13/11, Ronald STEVENS = <Ronald@sdc.com> = wrote:

From: Ronald STEVENS <Ronald@sdc.com>
Subject: = [LML] What would you do.....
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: = Sunday, November 13, 2011, 8:22 AM

Today I spoke with a CFII who was asking me for help regarding an = issue he has with a pilot who owns a Lancair 4p.

I am not calling names, so in case he is a follower of the LML, he = can take your advices. 

This plane has tons of issues, as a matter of fact the Cfii told me = that from the last 11 flights he had, 10 had emergencies, like engine = out, total loss of electrical power etc etc.

The plane has an OP technologies (old setup) avionics who is not = working right etc.

Above all this the owner is a low time pilot, and according to the = CFII he is flying the plane with 2 hands on the stick because he doesn't = know how to use the trim.

So when I was hearing this I was shocked and told him that he = should first get the plane checked out by somebody like Charlie Kohler = and than fix it and than sell it. 

The CFII told me that he already told him this but that he was = stubborn and doesn't want to sell.....

Now this is a next statistic waiting to happen and I really feel = bad, so what would you do?



Ronald (110 hours Lancair 4p, 1400 hours with other planes = lol)

On Nov 11, 2011, at 2:31 PM, "Russell" <n2aa@att.net> = wrote:

 
 

Originally I tried to be clever with = installing mine in the copilots naca vent. This did not work, we got = erroneous numbers. The probe needs to be out completely in the air to = give you proper information.

 

Mine is now installed on my legacy on the = bottom side of the stub wing in front of the spar about 6 inches away = from the fuselage. This gave me easy access through the access cover = inside the cabin. Or easier said, almost in front of the spar inner = bolt. In that position we were receiving accurate temperatures and = information.

 

Regards

Russell Steiner

Legacy N2AA

G900 = panel


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