X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:11:22 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mailout-us.mail.com ([74.208.122.35] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with SMTP id 5199113 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:38:53 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.208.122.35; envelope-from=cfi@instructor.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Nov 2011 13:38:17 -0000 Received: from mobile-166-137-139-007.mycingular.net (EHLO [10.31.106.169]) [166.137.139.7] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us011) with SMTP; 14 Nov 2011 08:38:17 -0500 X-Authenticated: #73491717 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+fE5cI/P6fO0Ah6gZHDGA3cZB/oUdGnStuVP68lQ IaTe6EdevFsLaz Subject: Re: [LML] Re: What would you do..... References: From: Ron Galbraith Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-F7E01B90-BC29-4F36-83C7-7AC1FC8E29EB X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: <77C69EE4-74B9-4FD0-8E7A-1D672E79A4C8@instructor.net> X-Original-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:38:13 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 --Apple-Mail-F7E01B90-BC29-4F36-83C7-7AC1FC8E29EB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There is no insurance on the plane. =20 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Charley Brown wrote: > If it's that bad, and he's just about to (a) kill himself and (b) create a= nother spot on the aviation safety record, and someone responsible has alrea= dy tried to reason with him, then it's time to be a rat: > 1. Notify his insurance company, if they can be identified (and he even h= as insurance), and > 2. Notify the local FSDO. If the airplane is a flying emergency, they ca= n probably find something on a ramp check and then do a little negotiating t= o get the guy to bring it up to par or get rid of it. >=20 > On Nov 13, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Ronald STEVENS wrote: >=20 > Today I spoke with a CFII who was asking me for help regarding an issue he= has with a pilot who owns a Lancair 4p. >=20 > I am not calling names, so in case he is a follower of the LML, he can tak= e your advices.=20 >=20 > This plane has tons of issues, as a matter of fact the Cfii told me that f= rom the last 11 flights he had, 10 had emergencies, like engine out, total l= oss of electrical power etc etc. >=20 > The plane has an OP technologies (old setup) avionics who is not working r= ight etc. >=20 > Above all this the owner is a low time pilot, and according to the CFII he= is flying the plane with 2 hands on the stick because he doesn't know how t= o use the trim. >=20 > So when I was hearing this I was shocked and told him that he should first= get the plane checked out by somebody like Charlie Kohler and than fix it a= nd than sell it.=20 >=20 > The CFII told me that he already told him this but that he was stubborn an= d doesn't want to sell..... >=20 > Now this is a next statistic waiting to happen and I really feel bad, so w= hat would you do? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ronald (110 hours Lancair 4p, 1400 hours with other planes lol) >=20 > On Nov 11, 2011, at 2:31 PM, "Russell" wrote: >=20 >> =20 >> =20 >> Originally I tried to be clever with installing mine in the copilots naca= vent. This did not work, we got erroneous numbers. The probe needs to be ou= t completely in the air to give you proper information. >> =20 >> Mine is now installed on my legacy on the bottom side of the stub wing in= front of the spar about 6 inches away from the fuselage. This gave me easy a= ccess through the access cover inside the cabin. Or easier said, almost in f= ront of the spar inner bolt. In that position we were receiving accurate tem= peratures and information. >> =20 >> Regards >> Russell Steiner >> Legacy N2AA >> G900 panel >=20 --Apple-Mail-F7E01B90-BC29-4F36-83C7-7AC1FC8E29EB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
There is no insurance on t= he plane.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 14, 2011, a= t 7:44 AM, Charley Brown <browncc= 1@verizon.net> wrote:

If it's that bad, and he's just about to (a) kill himself and (= b) create another spot on the aviation safety record, and someone responsibl= e has already tried to reason with him, then it's time to be a rat:
1.  Notify his insurance company, if they can be identified (and he e= ven has insurance), and
2.  Notify the local FSDO.  If t= he airplane is a flying emergency, they can probably find something on a ram= p check and then do a little negotiating to get the guy to bring it up to pa= r or get rid of it.

On Nov 13, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Ronald S= TEVENS wrote:

Today I spoke with a CFII who was asking me for help regarding a= n issue he has with a pilot who owns a Lancair 4p.

= I am not calling names, so in case he is a follower of the LML, he can take y= our advices. 

This plane has tons of issues, a= s a matter of fact the Cfii told me that from the last 11 flights he had, 10= had emergencies, like engine out, total loss of electrical power etc etc.

The plane has an OP technologies (old setup) avionic= s who is not working right etc.

Above all this the o= wner is a low time pilot, and according to the CFII he is flying the plane w= ith 2 hands on the stick because he doesn't know how to use the trim.
<= div>
So when I was hearing this I was shocked and told him tha= t he should first get the plane checked out by somebody like Charlie Kohler a= nd than fix it and than sell it. 

The CFII tol= d me that he already told him this but that he was stubborn and doesn't want= to sell.....

Now this is a next statistic waiting t= o happen and I really feel bad, so what would you do?



Ronald (110 hours Lancair 4p, 1400 hours with other planes lol)

On Nov 11, 2011, at 2:31 PM, "Russell" <n2aa@att.net> wrote:

 

 

Originally I tried to be clever with installing mine in= the copilots naca vent. This did not work, we got erroneous numbers. The pr= obe needs to be out completely in the air to give you proper information.

 

Mine is now installed on my legacy on the bottom side of the stub wing in= front of the spar about 6 inches away from the fuselage. This gave me easy a= ccess through the access cover inside the cabin. Or easier said, almost in f= ront of the spar inner bolt. In that position we were receiving accurate tem= peratures and information.

 <= /o:p>

Regards

Russell Steiner

Legacy N2AA=

G900 panel


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