X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:44:09 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTP id 5198185 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:11:32 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.39; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pADFAmg4014889 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:10:48 -0500 Received: from [10.136.100.97] (mobile-166-205-138-166.mycingular.net [166.205.138.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 32638E0000ED; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:10:47 -0500 (EST) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--707537693 X-Original-Message-Id: <1B21C0F8-9D1C-43BC-88B6-30FDBB86A728@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) From: Jeff Edwards Subject: Re: [LML] What would you do..... X-Original-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:10:40 -0600 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:336220512:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29434ebfddf758fd X-AOL-IP: 166.205.138.166 --Apple-Mail-2--707537693 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Have CFI call me AvSafe=20 Jeff Edwards 314.308.6719 mobile 636.532.5638 office Jeff.edwards@avsafe.com On Nov 13, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Ronald STEVENS wrote: > Today I spoke with a CFII who was asking me for help regarding an issue he= has with a pilot who owns a Lancair 4p. >=20 > I am not calling names, so in case he is a follower of the LML, he can tak= e your advices.=20 >=20 > This plane has tons of issues, as a matter of fact the Cfii told me that f= rom the last 11 flights he had, 10 had emergencies, like engine out, total l= oss of electrical power etc etc. >=20 > The plane has an OP technologies (old setup) avionics who is not working r= ight etc. >=20 > Above all this the owner is a low time pilot, and according to the CFII he= is flying the plane with 2 hands on the stick because he doesn't know how t= o use the trim. >=20 > So when I was hearing this I was shocked and told him that he should first= get the plane checked out by somebody like Charlie Kohler and than fix it a= nd than sell it.=20 >=20 > The CFII told me that he already told him this but that he was stubborn an= d doesn't want to sell..... >=20 > Now this is a next statistic waiting to happen and I really feel bad, so w= hat would you do? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ronald (110 hours Lancair 4p, 1400 hours with other planes lol) >=20 > On Nov 11, 2011, at 2:31 PM, "Russell" wrote: >=20 >> =20 >> =20 >> Originally I tried to be clever with installing mine in the copilots naca= vent. This did not work, we got erroneous numbers. The probe needs to be ou= t completely in the air to give you proper information. >> =20 >> Mine is now installed on my legacy on the bottom side of the stub wing in= front of the spar about 6 inches away from the fuselage. This gave me easy a= ccess through the access cover inside the cabin. Or easier said, almost in f= ront of the spar inner bolt. In that position we were receiving accurate tem= peratures and information. >> =20 >> Regards >> Russell Steiner >> Legacy N2AA >> G900 panel --Apple-Mail-2--707537693 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Have CFI call me

AvSafe&nbs= p;
Jeff Edwards
314.308.6719 mobile
Today I spoke with a CFII who wa= s asking me for help regarding an issue he has with a pilot who owns a Lanca= ir 4p.

I am not calling names, so in case he is a f= ollower of the LML, he can take your advices. 

This plane has tons of issues, as a matter of fact the Cfii told me that fr= om the last 11 flights he had, 10 had emergencies, like engine out, total lo= ss of electrical power etc etc.

The plane has an OP= technologies (old setup) avionics who is not working right etc.
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Above all this the owner is a low time pilot, and according to= the CFII he is flying the plane with 2 hands on the stick because he doesn'= t know how to use the trim.

So when I was hearing t= his I was shocked and told him that he should first get the plane checked ou= t by somebody like Charlie Kohler and than fix it and than sell it. 

The CFII told me that he already told him this but th= at he was stubborn and doesn't want to sell.....

No= w this is a next statistic waiting to happen and I really feel bad, so what w= ould you do?



Ronald (110 hours Lancair 4p, 1= 400 hours with other planes lol)

On Nov 11, 2011, a= t 2:31 PM, "Russell" <n2aa@att.net> wrote:

 

 

Originally I tried to be clever with installing mine in= the copilots naca vent. This did not work, we got erroneous numbers. The pr= obe needs to be out completely in the air to give you proper information.

 

Mine is now installed on my legacy on the bottom side of the stub wing in= front of the spar about 6 inches away from the fuselage. This gave me easy a= ccess through the access cover inside the cabin. Or easier said, almost in f= ront of the spar inner bolt. In that position we were receiving accurate tem= peratures and information.

 <= /o:p>

Regards

Russell Steiner

Legacy N2AA=

G900 panel

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