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From: Joseph Czabaranek <joeczabaranek@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IPAD

DUATS has an app for iPhone that does display TFRs graphically.  It's free. =
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On Sep 28, 2011, at 12:36 PM, John Hafen <j.hafen@comcast.net> wrote:

> Foreflight currently does not display TFRs.
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> That capability is on a "futures list" for them.
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> John Hafen
> IVP413AJ 350 hours
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> On Sep 28, 2011, at 4:49 AM, Rob Murawski wrote:
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> I recently downloaded the evaluation versions of both Foreflight and WingX=

> to test them side-by-side.
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> My primary purpose was to find a nice flight planner that I could use on t=
he
> go.  I also wanted to be able to reference approach charts in flight so I
> wouldn't have to page through the book all the time or switch approach cha=
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> books en route.
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> I liked the Foreflight interface much better.  I also liked that when you
> buy it, you get a license to use it on one iPad *AND* one iPhone.  So if I=

> wanted to file while away from WiFi (I'm not paying for the iPad data plan=
)
> I could do so from my phone.
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> For WingX, I did like the split screen, so I could have an approach up and=

> watch my position on the IFR en route chart.  I just didn't think I'd need=

> this feature this often.  WingX only supported ADS-B weather, while
> Foreflight could download the radar image over the network.  WingX had
> better overlays for weather, TFRs, etc on the charts themselves.  However,=

> WingX wasn't always correct in the TFR interpretation. When Obama was in
> Shanksville, PA for the 9/11 memorial, it showed the first half of the TFR=

> over KPIT, but it never showed the second half over Shanksville, PA.  This=

> is probably an extreme case, but showed me I couldn't count on it.
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> I didn't really see myself using all of the in flight features.  WingX
> supports Synthetic Vision, but you would really need an external AHARS to
> make use of it well.  It also needed an ADS-B receiver to get the radar
> images.  I did like that WingX would show me which airspaces I was in.
> (Class B/class D/etc and floors/ceilings)  Granted, Foreflight won't show
> weather in flight, but again, I was more interested in preflight planning.=

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> My primary use was for preflight planning, filing, and reduction of paper.=

> Foreflight seemed much better for this purpose.  WingX seemed more like a
> tool for use in the air.  When it comes to aerial navigation, I prefer the=

> systems installed in the aircraft.  I've had both applications crash on me=

> and, possibly, Foreflight crashed a bit more often. Generally related to
> having a network, then having it disappear for a bit and it thinking it ca=
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> still download stuff. The crashes reduced once I bought a subscription and=

> could download chart data.
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> Disclaimer: I did all of my IFR training in a G1000-equipped 172.  So I'm a=

> bit spoiled at having a nice in-cockpit system to augment my situational
> awareness.
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> -Rob
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