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Subject: RE: [LML] N23PH crash
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I have a Legacy with an IO-550N. It holds 66 usable gal. of fuel (measured).
Lancair specs the Legacy at 64 usable.

The link to the flightaware track you provided shows a 3:50 flight duration,
not 3:15. It also shows altitude of approx. 8,000 ft.

If I flew my Legacy at 8,000 feet for 3:50 I would be out of fuel or very
close to it. The only way I can safely get that endurance is to go high and
run LOP.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Colyn
Case
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 10:17 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] N23PH crash

I just found out about this a few hours ago because I was away on a trip.
Peter's hangar is 10' behind mine at KMVL.
Peter wrote me an email earlier in the week saying he had about 5 hours on
the newly overhauled (by Barrett) engine and was headed for NC end of the
week.

reports of the content of the distress call are conflicting between oil
pressure and fuel pressure.   
reports of origination in JFK don't match the flight aware track.  I think
he left from KMVL and it looks like he went nonstop.
The flight aware track lasts three hours and 15 minutes but does not include
some of the climb nor any of the descent.   I believe N23PH carries 60
gallons of fuel and has an IO-550 engine.
The picture on the second link shows  the plane all in one place but the
right wing and the tail broke off, which seems to indicate a high vertical
rate in a nearly level attitude.   ....and not much movement across the
ground after impact.

Peter was involved in a Kitfox crash at KMVL in 2009.  That one was a
problem with the ROTAX engine which was never diagnosed.

http://www.enctoday.com/news/plane-73568-kfpress-hebert-vermont.html

http://www.jdnews.com/news/emergency-90876-plane-county.html

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N23PH

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=122124

http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2011/may/06/wnct-2-believed-dead-onslow-co-plane-
crash-ar-1010928/
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