X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:15:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from jrcda.com ([206.130.116.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTPS id 4957828 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:20:06 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.130.116.53; envelope-from=hwasti@lm50.com Received: from [192.168.1.104] (207-170-226-183.static.twtelecom.net [207.170.226.183]) (authenticated bits=0) by jrcda.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p3QEJSQl023220 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:19:30 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <4DB6D470.3000601@lm50.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:19:28 -0700 From: Hamid Wasti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: beware, you may be searched! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sky2high@aol.com wrote: > ***Caveat*** is more interesting. > > Reasonable detention is open to interpretation. It has been held that > detaining someone stopped for a traffic violation until drug dogs > could be obtained was not reasonable > I believe the reason the detention was found to be unreasonable in the particular case you are referring to was because of the length of detention, NOT specifically because the detention was to obtain a drug dog. I do not believe there is a specific hard number where xx:00 minutes is OK and xx:01 is unreasonable or a list of approved and disapproved reasons. It is up to the "totality of the circumstances," which unfortunately include the personal biases of the judge as well as the judge's assessment of the biases of the appeals court that will be reviewing the decision. Regards, Hamid