X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 08:02:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from snt0-omc3-s13.snt0.hotmail.com ([65.55.90.152] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2) with ESMTP id 4928760 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:44:12 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.90.152; envelope-from=gary21sn@hotmail.com Received: from SNT112-DS14 ([65.55.90.135]) by snt0-omc3-s13.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:43:37 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [24.216.248.63] X-Originating-Email: [gary21sn@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: gary21sn@hotmail.com From: "Gary Edwards" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: High Time 235/320 Story in EAA Experimenter X-Original-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:43:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_021C_01CBEFD3.8AB644D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V10.00.0079.0400 Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:43:34 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2011 01:43:37.0813 (UTC) FILETIME=[387D3850:01CBF00E] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_021C_01CBEFD3.8AB644D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great article. I remember Dave Roach's plane under construction in the = first video that was made about Lancair. Not a company video. Still = have it; VHS. Actually, I believe Don Goetz, a long time past employee, installed the = first 320 engine in the 235 airframe. He tried several innovations to = the 235 airframe including Cleveland brakes. The Cleveland's were = subsequently not utilized as a replacement to the Matco's, as they were = too thick and too many mods. were required to get the mains into the = gear wells. He built it as a proof of concept for the subsequent 320 = airframe. It included the first bottom hinged flaps (235 airframes = utilize top hinged flaps unless modified by the builder). =20 Also, it was Don that 'splashed' the mold for the 235 cowls with the = round inlet holes. Since the 235 airframe is narrower than the 320 = airframe, 320 cowls are not a direct replacement without extensive mods. = As a result a mold was made from the 235 airframe cowls utilizing round = air inlets and more bottom room for the deeper 320 engine. They were a = bit difficult to fit as they were just a 'smidge' too short, and some = builders had to add material to the cowls at the firewall end to get the = proper length. =20 I had the chance to get the last set of round inlet 235 airframe cowls = from Don at one of the 1990's Redmond Fly-ins. Took a look at them at = his house. I ended up utilizing my original flat inlet opening cowls = and had to make extensive mods to them for the 320 engine. With all the = changes and mods along the building process, it was just another of = many. Gary Edwards LNC2 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: bob mackey=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 3:52 PM Subject: [LML] Re: High Time 235/320 Story in EAA Experimenter = http://lancaironline.net/lists/lml/Message/57576.html = http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/issues/1103.html The article is about Dave Roach and his 235/O-320. When I was buying my 235/O-320, I was fortunate to find Dave to teach = me to fly a Lancair, and to help check out the purchased aircraft. It turns = out that my airplane (s/n 30) was effectively that twin of Dave's. Mike Dehate = was first with the O-320 installation and also pioneered the flap fence, and prop selection. Both aircraft later adapted the round inlet cowl, oleo nose strut, debongers, flexible fuel-transfer options, and other details as described in the article. Both aircraft are continuing to improve year by year as we make modifications. In buying that particular airplane, I met and gained two friends in Dave Roach and Mike Dehate. It has truly been a great pleasure to get to know, learn from, and fly with those two gentlemen. -bob ------=_NextPart_000_021C_01CBEFD3.8AB644D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great article.  I remember Dave Roach's plane under = construction in=20 the first video that was made about Lancair.  Not a company = video. =20 Still have it; VHS.
 
Actually, I believe Don Goetz, a long time past=20 employee, installed the first 320 engine in the 235 = airframe.  He=20 tried several innovations to the 235 airframe including Cleveland = brakes. =20 The Cleveland's were subsequently not utilized as a replacement to the = Matco's,=20 as they were too thick and too many mods. were required to get the mains = into=20 the gear wells.  He built it as a proof of concept for the = subsequent 320=20 airframe.  It included the first bottom hinged flaps (235 airframes = utilize=20 top hinged flaps unless modified by the builder). 
 
Also, it was Don that 'splashed' the mold for the 235 cowls with = the round=20 inlet holes.  Since the 235 airframe is narrower than the 320=20 airframe, 320 cowls are not a direct replacement without = extensive=20 mods.  As a result a mold was made from the 235 airframe cowls = utilizing round air inlets and more bottom room for the deeper 320 = engine. =20 They were a bit difficult to fit as they were just a 'smidge' too short, = and=20 some builders had to add material to the cowls at the firewall end = to get=20 the proper length. 
 
I had the chance to get the last set of round inlet 235 airframe = cowls from=20 Don at one of the 1990's Redmond Fly-ins.  Took a look at them at = his=20 house.  I ended up utilizing my original flat inlet opening cowls = and had=20 to make extensive mods to them for the 320 engine.  With all the = changes=20 and mods along the building process, it was just another of many.
 
Gary Edwards
LNC2    
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From: bob mackey
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 = 3:52=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: High Time = 235/320=20 Story in EAA Experimenter

http://lan= caironline.net/lists/lml/Message/57576.html

http://www.eaa.= org/experimenter/issues/1103.html

The=20 article is about Dave Roach and his 235/O-320.
When I was buying my = 235/O-320, I was fortunate to find Dave to teach me to
fly a = Lancair, and=20 to help check out the purchased aircraft. It turns out that
my = airplane=20 (s/n 30) was effectively that twin of Dave's. Mike Dehate was
first = with=20 the O-320 installation and also pioneered the flap fence,
and prop=20 selection. Both aircraft later adapted the round inlet cowl,
oleo = nose=20 strut, debongers, flexible fuel-transfer options, and other
details = as=20 described in the article. Both aircraft are continuing to
improve = year by=20 year as we make modifications.

In buying that particular = airplane, I=20 met and gained two friends
in Dave Roach and Mike Dehate. It has = truly been=20 a great pleasure
to get to know, learn from, and fly with those two = gentlemen.

-bob

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