Return-Path: Received: from web4803.mail.yahoo.com ([216.115.105.245]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:23:36 -0400 Received: from [152.163.197.46] by web4803.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 06:29:41 PDT Message-ID: <20000612132941.3549.qmail@web4803.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 06:29:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Charlie Kohler Subject: Monday Morning QB To: John Wright Cc: Lancair List X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> ""Charlie, Any ideas why this would happen? Does this imply that engine out practice should be done infrequently? Also, Whats your opinion on pressure testing iv-p's to 7.5psi or so on the ground, good idea or not? If so how do you get the door seal inflated with the door locked? and how do you verify what the cabin pressure is from the outside? Thanks, John"" Hi John, I would only advocate a practice simulated "power out" during a annual recurrency check. Less than 10" is not good on thrust bearings. But, In a "die out" at IDLE throttle position-- one would normally think engine loaded up on the rich end. Only way to clear it is to add throttle--air-- and the proper mixture. His analysis of his situation is good- and I believe it would have worked had he tried it. Going back to the original problem and why did it happen to begin with--. The applicable questions are; 1. Was fuel pump left on below 10,000 ft? 2. Was low end unmetered fuel pressure 7-9 psi? 3. Was idle mixture 50 rpm rich? 4. Was Idle speed set @ 600 rpm? Second Question, No I do not believe 7.5 psi testing is required to have a safe airframe. IMHO 6.5, is far enough beyond the operational limits to give an adequate test. Were you doing design testing-- I'de pump it up to failure and see where the weakest link is. But, We already know that some airframes have door windows that were the weakest link. Latch mount holes/ and poor glue adhesion between window and frame seem to be the main factors. If done properly, I suspect it would go 100% over operating pressure-- but I'm not going to try it on mine! Third Question,Door seal SW. This is my method. 1. Disconnect master relay positive lead. 2. turn on master sw. 3. instant glue a nylon thread to the end of the door seal switch lever 4. place sw in on position. 5. route thread under door seal to be able to pull from outside door and turn off sw (Deflating seal). 6. close and latch door/ 7. connect master sw lead. Seal should pump up. Use hose from elevator pressure compensator and extend to safe distance for gage. When done -- disconnect master sw and pull thread. If thread comes off or won't work--- take rest of day off and come back tomorrow. It should deflate in a day or two. Charlie K. ===== Charlie Kohler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>