X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:31:39 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.99] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2o) with SMTP id 4888401 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:29:30 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.99; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.91.66] by nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2011 23:28:53 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.50] by tm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2011 23:28:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1050.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2011 23:28:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 33498.46489.bm@omp1050.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 83289 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Mar 2011 23:28:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YSQDTgOyOG+DnfKn2Wp0m0vYEptKm6wG8vYnqZFANbJlmVYqq6GtZgMWwsh9SjbEvE33fglIavoZ5s76XjJ42QD86P862N2/j/2JEnQecjUVC/E7bpWYBLdNJhaeL5bajB1N45az8ksxEdS7ngCvwZw8eapvQmQYgDnkubkE5jY=; X-Original-Message-ID: <659483.83097.qm@web111415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ipOS66MVM1kIB1uUbeNWhCaxIoJhEFYI8Jym89HG5.nTzDj eMEfdFSvsEiRTbqFzGndZGwrhHW85i4eKsP7aaT8mC0M50wkehME.XW2jAr4 gGfPjnj_2Jk.yG8Vx_q2iA8XYRA5fSqKwEvo7CVUF55rAf8e88_8BZmyNAtL EGmbgblQnf9Llh5mj.VZkERtS0he9ZnVdzURv_SOlXiT1dc4pDITaJyoLBJ_ Gu3GrGMXANCFsbSASx79JN6DfcwzmMWErK1QHpFw9zRx4WQBhOYkQWtNxZF7 5vO_n43ulOPUqWMkxS.x5FbwFd7mNS4vs.ZOQwYRIFOF4IQsODp0O6qo9wZN Wu2T2ly6pbXqtfvzUAUukCdG0YZCA6qd1JD9Jvg6y71Y0P13IbKQMThYzeud E4.k29LVgzJP4 Received: from [69.169.190.15] by web111415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:28:52 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:28:52 -0800 (PST) From: randy snarr Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Burned dust cover looking for material that wontburn. X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-338830019-1299108532=:83097" --0-338830019-1299108532=:83097 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary,=20 I thought of that too. Anything but black reflects in the window. Colors to varying degrees but fo= il is too much.. Carbon fiber is the stuff. I have tested it and it will not burn or make a = mark. I am planning to make some patches for the sides of the dust cover like the= elbows on a sport jacket. I plan to glue them down with spray adhesive. I = just need a good way to finish the edges so it has a nice clean look. My dust cover is flat black so black carbon fiber may by my answer. Still working on a solution to make it permanent... I will post what I end up doing.. Randy Snarr 235-320 N694RS "Flight by machines heavier than air is unpractical and insignificant, if n= ot utterly impossible" -Simon Newcomb, 1902 --- On Wed, 3/2/11, Gary Edwards wrote: From: Gary Edwards Subject: [LML] Re: Burned dust cover looking for material that wontburn. To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 5:58 AM =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0AHow about using a patch of Zetex in the areas prone to b= urning?=0A=A0=0AGary=0A=0A ----- Original Message ----- =0A From: randyls= narr@yahoo.com =0A To: lml@lancaironline.net =0A Sent: Tuesday, March 01,= 2011 12:19 =0A PM=0A Subject: [LML] Re: Burned dust cover =0A looking f= or material that wontburn.=0A =20 I have tried to do the same. I really would like a better =0A solution tho= ugh. Sooner or later it is going to happen again. i just picked up =0A som= e cloth material that will not burn. I will post my findings to the group = =0A if it works. Randy Snarr =0A Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile=0A = =0A=0A From: "Gary Edwards" =0A Sender: "Lancair M= ailing List" =0A=0A Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:50:3= 5 -0500=0A To: =0A ReplyTo: "Lancair Mailing List"= =0A =0A Subject: [LML] Re: Burned dust cover loo= king for material that =0A wont burn.=0A =20 =0A =0A My second re-covering of the glare shield lasted about 48 hours w= ithout a =0A burn mark.=A0 Got distracted when a TV camera crew walked up = with the =0A camera rolling (my 15 minutes of fame).=A0 So, I said, "screw= this".=A0 =0A I put an EAA sticker over the burn marks.=A0 It's been ther= e for 9 =0A years.=A0 I try to not park with the sun behind the plane and = try to =0A keep the canopy closed.=A0 A bit difficult when I pull the plan= e out of the =0A hanger and it's facing north for taxi.=0A =A0=0A Gary E= dwards=0A LNC2=0A =0A ----- Original Message ----- =0A From: randy = =0A snarr =0A To: lml@lancaironline.net =0A Sent: Thursday, Februa= ry 24, 2011 8:13 =0A AM=0A Subject: [LML] Burned dust cover =0A lo= oking for material that wont burn.=0A =20 =0A =0A =0A =0A Everyone has seen the burn marks on you= r dust cover =0A over the instrument panel from the canopy glass c= aused by the sun when =0A it hits at the right angle. Mine was really nice. It was covered in =0A a sinthetic black leat= her. Anyway, I have already recovered it once =0A and tried to be = really careful with it. In short, it has about 20 or =0A so burn m= arks in it in 2 years.=20 I am looking for a black =0A material (or could be painted black) = that will not burn that is thin =0A that two 8" patches could be m= ade to protect the sides of the glare =0A shield where the sun is = hitting it.=20 Basically I would use an =0A adhesive to glue down these patches w= here the sun hits to stop the =0A burn holes... Any ideas? Randy =0A Snarr N694RS 235/320 "Flight by machines heavier than air is =0A unpractical and insign= ificant, if not utterly =0A impossible" -Simon Newcomb, =0A 1902 =0A=0A=0A --0-338830019-1299108532=:83097 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary,
I thought of that too.
Anything = but black reflects in the window. Colors to varying degrees but foil is too= much..

Carbon fiber is the stuff. I have tested it and it will not = burn or make a mark.
I am planning to make some patches for the sides of= the dust cover like the elbows on a sport jacket. I plan to glue them down= with spray adhesive. I just need a good way to finish the edges so it has = a nice clean look.
My dust cover is flat black so black carbon fiber may= by my answer.
Still working on a solution to make it permanent...
I = will post what I end up doing..
Randy Snarr
235-320
N694RS

=
"Flight by machines heavier than ai= r is unpractical and insignificant, if not utterly impossible"
-S= imon Newcomb, 1902

--- On Wed, 3/2/11, Gary Edwards <gary21sn@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Gary Edwards <gary21sn@hotmail.com>
Subject: [LML] Re: = Burned dust cover looking for material that wontburn.
To: lml@lancaironl= ine.net
Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 5:58 AM

=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A
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How ab= out using a patch of Zetex in the areas prone to burning?
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Gary
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, March 01,= 2011 12:19 =0A PM
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Subject: [LML] Re: Burned dust cover =0A looking for mater= ial that wontburn.
=0A

I have tried to do the same. I = really would like a better =0A solution though. Sooner or later it is goin= g to happen again. i just picked up =0A some cloth material that will not = burn. I will post my findings to the group =0A if it works. Randy Snarr = =0A

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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=0A Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:50:35 -0500
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Subject: [= LML] Re: Burned dust cover looking for material that =0A wont burn.
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=0A
=0A
My second re-covering of the glare = shield lasted about 48 hours without a =0A burn mark.  Got distracted= when a TV camera crew walked up with the =0A camera rolling (my 15 minute= s of fame).  So, I said, "screw this".  =0A I put an EAA sticker= over the burn marks.  It's been there for 9 =0A years.  I tr= y to not park with the sun behind the plane and try to =0A keep the ca= nopy closed.  A bit difficult when I pull the plane out of the =0A ha= nger and it's facing north for taxi.
=0A
 
=0A
G= ary Edwards
=0A
LNC2
=0A
=0A
----- Original Message -----
=0A =0A =0A
Sent: Thursday, Febr= uary 24, 2011 8:13 =0A AM
=0A
Subject: [LML] Burned dust cover =0A looking = for material that wont burn.
=0A

=0A =0A =0A = =0A
Everyone has seen the burn marks on your dust= cover =0A over the instrument panel from the canopy glass caused = by the sun when =0A it hits at the right angle.
Mine was really= nice. It was covered in =0A a sinthetic black leather. Anyway, I = have already recovered it once =0A and tried to be really careful = with it. In short, it has about 20 or =0A so burn marks in it in 2= years.

I am looking for a black =0A material (or could be= painted black) that will not burn that is thin =0A that two 8" pa= tches could be made to protect the sides of the glare =0A shield w= here the sun is hitting it.
Basically I would use an =0A adhes= ive to glue down these patches where the sun hits to stop the =0A = burn holes...

Any ideas?
Randy =0A Snarr
N694RS
23= 5/320



"Flight by machine= s heavier than air is =0A unpractical and insignificant, if not ut= terly =0A impossible"
-Simon Newcomb, =0A 1902



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