Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #57669
From: Keith Smith <keith.smith@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: GPS Speed (Lancair 320): 272 KTS (313 MPH)
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 07:58:48 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Thanks, Lorn,

I have the small-tail 360. I'm guessing that 197ktas is probably one of the slower examples.  I think Rick Argente's 360 is good for about 205ktas if memory serves.

I was parked on the ramp at Statesboro, GA when a Lo Presti employee walked over after climbing out of his Mooney. "Ohhhh the things I could do to this plane," he said :)  He was practically drooling and reaching for glass fab tools right there and then.  I finished up and said, "I'm dead serious, you need to get this plane to our facility, we would much rather work on this than put 'speed mods' on a Cherokee!"

One very tangible item that he mentioned right out of the gate was an extension for the ram air intake to bring it within a inch of the back of the prop. He says that the pressure recovery you get from the ram air system is that much better as you move the intake closer to the prop.  He then examined the underside of the wing and recommended some tape for the flaps, saying there wasn't much that could done on the ailerons.

Interesting experience. I'm happy with how it flies, but if time and money ever permit, I will look at a plenum or better baffling, as I read Chris' articles on cooling drag prior to buying the 360, and then perhaps taking it to Lo Presti to see what they would do with it.

Keith

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Lorn H Olsen <lorn@dynacomm.us> wrote:
Keith,

I normally fly at 160 kts ias at 7,500 ft. This would be about 184 kts tas ((1+.075*2)*160). This is at 2,350 rpm, 23.5" mp & 7.5 gph.

When I go up to 2,550 rpm, full throttle & 8.5 gph, my speed goes up to 170 kts ias or about 195 kts tas. I have a standard 160 hp O-320 w/Aero Composites carbon prop.

My data corresponds to the following CAFE report:




The 360 is supposed to be 10 kts faster than the 320. Your data confirms that.

I believe that my prop increases my speed by about 5 kts tas.

Lorn

Here is the Lancair 320 Per

> From: Keith Smith <keith.smith@gmail.com>
> Date: February 28, 2011 7:19:31 PM EST
>
> I posted those Lancair 360 speeds. I'm well aware that GS is not representative of aircraft performance, but it's also a guilty pleasure to track 'em :)
>
> One figure I'm truly interested in is what the maximum sustained true airspeed is in level flight for various Lancair 360s. I know my plane is good for 197ktas with me in it...no more and no less. I actually use that information as a gauge for how the plane is doing on any given day. One day I was getting 202, sustained for a few minutes in level flight. That got my attention. It turned out to be a very slight updraft. I paid the piper later on, though, entering a similar downdraft, taking me down to around 185ktas.
>
> Groundspeeds are fun to giggle over. True airspeed in level flight is something to admire. I'm guessing the cleanest 360's with 180hp power plants are good for around 205ktas, perhaps?
>
> Keith

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Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst
DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us
LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,790 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan


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