X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:10:20 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta31.charter.net ([216.33.127.82] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2o) with ESMTP id 4882723 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:15:28 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.82; envelope-from=troneill@charter.net Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20110225191452.SQDB12685.mta31.charter.net@imp09> for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:14:52 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([75.132.241.174]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id CKEr1g00K3mUFT705KEs1B; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:14:52 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=W6A64G_AIxe1_LU_xvsA:9 a=vzgxROlGR3qmthgCYBUA:7 a=WBPTnQz4Z8lEDsM0LS4-15rMCKoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 From: Terrence O'Neill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LNC2 wing tank sloshing X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:14:51 -0600 X-Original-Message-Id: <838473A0-3504-4C0C-9F65-102E77C95A75@CHARTER.NET> X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Here's some experience info which may be of some help to others with = similar problems. A slow-weeping leak in the left wing tank, appeared on the lower flange = of the front wing spar, in the cockpit, accumulated on the floor. =20 By draining the tank in stages I found that with fuel at about 8 gallons = -- half full-- the leak stopped. Concluded the leak to be through the = front spar web, and in upper half... but the leading edge conceals and = prevents access to the spar web. .. so I couldn't tell where it was = span-wise, although I made a vacuum and manometer apparatus to try to = hear leak hissing with my stethescope... which I hope I never have to = use. Therefore no alternative but to pull the wing off, and prepare for = sloshing. Searching for an appropriate sloshing compound was frustrating. One 3M = manufacturer stated "No data is available for directions to apply this = product", or words to that effect. Others stated 'not for aircraft = use', but gave directions for application. Vans blogs and some others = warned against use if the fuel had methanol or diesel. One was = recommended for use in Lancairs, a 3-gallon 2-part kit costing about = $300. Some were one-part rubber compound which cured by evaporation of = MEK vehicle, PR-1005-L, which I elected to try, although directions for = use were lacking, for one quart for almost $200. However the cheaper, = similar slosh for a motorcycle tank sloshing product, gave the most = directions. I finally decided on a procedure which I hope worked. I assumed one = quart would be enough for my 16+ gal. tank.=20 The similar cheaper product suggested a quart for only 12 gal. tank = capacity, and indicated slosh could be thinned by about 25%R MEK added, = and applied twice for two thin coats would reportedly would dry faster = than one thick coat. Its recommended directions were to first flush the = tank with MEK, purpose not explained, but I think the purpose was to = absorb up to 3 grams of any water remaining trapped in the tank first. = Then the slosh applied. I did the MEK slosh first, then drained the MEK into a container, = through the tank fuel outlet; then blow-dried out the tank by using the = outlet of my Shopvac, for an hour. Then again plugged the outlet, and = poured slosh in though the filler cap, and first rocked the wing = horizontal for the outer tank bay (tank is divided by a rib in the tank = center with three or four holes in top of the rib and bottom). Then stood the tank on the leading edge to coat the outer part of the = front spar web. Then laid the wing flat and tilted it toward the root, = to let the slosh drain through the rib holes to the inner bay, and = repeated the horizontal rocking, then raising it to its leading edge to = coat the inner part of the front spar web. Then tilted toward the = trailing edge to coat the rear spar web, then tilted toward the wingtip = again to flow the slosh outboard and did the same to the outer part of = the rear spar web. Then the wing was tipped toward the root after unplugging the fuel = outlet, and the remaining slosh drained out. I was happy to see that about half a quart of slosh drained out, and I = returned it to its container for a second coat if needed, after testing = for leaking. =20 The directioons for the similar slosh compound had suggested letting the = slosh stand too cure in 48 hours, or to start curing for an hour before = blowing air through it to speed drying/curing. So i stood the wing on = its leading edge for an hour before starting the blower again and ran it = for an hour; then returned the wing to horizontal and let it rest with = vent, outlet and inlet open, where it is now. I did the sloshing in = this order because I had no way of knowing how much slosh was going to = be use du,p to coat the tank, and wanted to prioritize the root end of = the front wing spar. I suspected the drying would be slow because the hangar temp was abut = 50-55F, and a sloshing compound gave specs for 77F.. I had a sample of = the slosh in an open container, and brought that home to observe the = curing progress... at the same temperature, in my shop. Where the slosh = coating is thin it dried fairly fast... in less than an hour; but where = it puddled about .060 to .090 thick, it has taken two days to gradually = dry to a thinner but still softer consistency. Today i thinned the remaining pint of slosh with 25% MEK, and poured a = sample (sample similar) amount on top of the original sample, to test = whether it would adhere, and to see the drying time. It dried fairly fast at 55F, and appears to merge smoothly onto the = first sloshing compound, so now i plan to repeat the same sloshing = procedure with thinned slosh, as soon as the temperature get up to about = 55 to 60F, to try to be sure the leak is closed, and any future similar = leak prevented.=20 Its hard to understand why this product could not have had Directions = for application, perhaps suggesting a temperature for application, and = alternate methods or preferred methods of application, prepping for = same, re-coating, thinning the slosh, etc., for corporations like PPG = and 3M. Any comments welcome. To be continued .... Terrence L235/320 N211AL