Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #56793
From: Berni <bbreen@cableone.net>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:38:16 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
I fly cross country each and every week with my 3G iPad and Foreflight.  I have dual Garmin 430's in my panel and see zero information conflict between the iPad and the Garmins...ever.  In my opinion all you would be accomplishing by adding an external receiver would be to lessen the mobility of your iPad.

Sent from my iPad
Berni Breen

On Nov 25, 2010, at 9:27 AM, John Hafen <j.hafen@comcast.net> wrote:

The Bad Elf site says:

"Don’t have a recent iPhone or an iPad (3G+Wi-Fi) with an internal GPS receiver? Attach the Bad Elf GPS to any iPod touch, iPad, or original iPhone device and start using location-based apps on your device today."

I DO have an iPad with an internal GPS receiver, from the factory.  So would I be buying myself anything with another external receiver?  better reception?  more accuracy?

John


On Nov 22, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Robert Mitchell wrote:

John,

From Foreflight blog, cost $99.00 

The first supported device is the Bad Elf GPS Receiver for iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad (66-channel, SBAS/WAAS, 10Hz).  This small, directly attached GPS receiver avoids the need for charging a separate device while providing high quality GPS fixes for ForeFlight Mobile HD.  The BadElf GPS requires zero setup – just plug it into your iPad or iPhone and you have an upgraded GPS signal.  More information is available on the Bad Elf web site.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 21, 2010, at 9:17 PM, "John Barrett" <jbarrett@carbinge.com> wrote:

Have been watching this thread with great interest.  I have iPad with wifi but not 3G.  My wife gave it to me as a present and she knows I don’t like my cell phones to have 3G internet connectivity so she reasoned this would be the right thing for me.  I thought so too until I started reading on LML about  Foreflight for the iPad.  Now I’ve tried it and it looks pretty good but works best if hooked up via wifi.  I’ve been using Seattle Avionics Voyager on a small tablet computer and it looks like the iPad might have some advantages.

 

My iPad is a 64 GB model so has beaucoup storage.  I have been told I can “tether” it to a cell phone with 3G capabilities and a GPS to make it functional for aviation apps.  I am looking to verify this concept.  Anyone have experience with this?  A low end IPhone can be had for $99 and the tether contract is $45 per month but can be selectively downgraded month to month when not being used to $15 per month minimal contract. 

 

John Barrett

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of YoSamuel@aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 1:53 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit

 

John Hafen.

 

What software do you use for your IFR and VFR charts?

 

Thanks.

 

Dave.

 

 

 

In a message dated 11/19/2010 5:03:26 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, j.hafen@comcast.net writes:

My iPad provides moving map display on top of VFR or IFR charts as I fly, as well as groundspeed, GPS Altitude, and Track.  At 22,000 feet, well away from cell towers.

 

What you can't get airborne is weather information.  

 

John Hafen

 

 

On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:52 PM, H & J Johnson wrote:



 

 

 

John, I thought so too, until I started to talking to the Apple rep at the store. I've got the second highest level iPad [32Gb w/ 3G] and there is no GPS [as in 'true' GPS w/ a built in receiver]. What it does have is what they call A-GPS or "Assisted" GPS through connection to a 3G tower. If your connected to 3G, then you have a 'sorta' GPS, however there is still no actuall connection or reception of SAT signals.  For me flying @ FL240 it's pretty useless in this regard, but I would still recommend it as a tool for carrying your charts etc. Foreflight and FliteDeck are very nice.

Google the iPad w/ GPS stuff, there is lots of ppl not terribly happy that it doesn't infact have a proper receiver.

Fwiw

Jarrett Johnson

235/320 55%

> Not true. The higher end models do have gps. I know because my
> wife got me the wrong one to start with. I had to take it back and
> pay a few hundred more to get what I needed.....
>
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:24 AM, "Dominic V. Crain"
> <domcrain@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Yeah – I just went to look at an iPad as a b’day present (for
> meself) and when quizzed the so-called Apple expert finally
> acknowledged there is no GPS receiver built in to the iPad – you
> have to be in range of a 3G cell tower. Not a lot of use in the
> outback>
> > Cheers
> >
> > Dom Crain
> >
> > VH-CZJ
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: Lancair Mailing List [lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of
> H & J Johnson
> > Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2010 1:21 PM
> > To: lml@lancaironline.net
> > Subject: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit
> >
> > 
> >
> > Bob Are you positive that your unit has a built in GPS? I just
> upgrade my iPad from the standard wi-fi to the 3G + wi-fi and was
> wanting the unit w/ a GPS but was told that infact they do-not
> come w/ a GPS. There are 'GPS emulators' that make it work like a
> GPS but it isn't infact and gps.  I can't get any 'gps' functions
> to work on my w/out the 3G operating.
> >
> > As to external GPS units that integrate w/ blue tooth, what or
> where does one get such a beast?
> >
> > REALLY liking my iPAD for in-cockpit work. I did an entire trip
> last night central Canada to Denver and return to Canada w/ two
> stops and didn't pick up a single chart book or map [I have them
> still, I just don't use them]. It doesn't get better than that!!
> Esp when going into somewhere larger like Denver Metro area and
> getting 'yanked' around a bit switching up arrival plates or
> approach plates is a synch.
> >
> > Couldn't recommend it enough!
> >
> > Btw, to date [only been using a iPad for ~4 weeks] I've not had
> issue w/ heat or altitude and I generally fly Fl240 or Fl250 w/ a
> cabin alt of 7-8000'
> >
> > Fwiw
> >
> > Jarrett Johnson
> >
> > 235/320 55%
>

 

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