X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:20:16 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.207.163] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTP id 4427525 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:07:06 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.207.163; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o7C16KSB022342 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:06:20 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.eee.2860a86 (37107) for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:06:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-d23.mail.aol.com (magic-d23.mail.aol.com [172.19.146.157]) by cia-db08.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB085-90f34c63490b2e0; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:06:19 -0400 From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:06:18 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Factory Support of Older Lancairs X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_fc37.7dd97375.3994a30a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.5 sub 155 X-AOL-IP: 24.15.17.119 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Sky2high@aol.com --part1_fc37.7dd97375.3994a30a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob, with respect to 320/360 starting from the front and in addition to the things you mentioned (like cylinder rebuild kits): Engine mount, nose strut, fork, bearing spacers, mounting blocks, gas spring, actuator, pivots and links ( all unavailable anywhere else) Main gear casting, leg, bearing pivots, GM1?(Link/gear pivot), links, springs, actuators, all door actuators, sequence valves (most unavailable elsewhere). Most other things can be fabricated. Canopy gas springs Canopy glass??? Otherwise, consider the aircraft totaled. Wheels, etc can be obtained elsewhere. The engine mount, nose strut, fork, main gear castings and legs would seem to be hardest to reproduce elsewhere. Grayhawk - I broke a lotta stuff. In a message dated 8/11/2010 9:57:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rwolf99@aol.com writes: To answer the question of what factory part support is desired, this is what I'd like to be able to buy from the factory forever... 1) First and foremost, any part which cannot be obtained elsewhere. This is a no-brainer, so I realize that this is not particularly insightful. But the first place to delete inventory is stuff that we can get elsewhere. They may choose to stock items that we can find elsewhere but they don't have to. It's very convenient to have a one-stop shop with excellent customer service so some may choose to buy from Lancair even if they don't have to. I probably would if the price was competitive. Will they make money competing with Aircraft Spruce? Probably not. 2) First priority for Lancair would be to supply standard replacement items. This would include hydraulic cylinders, O-rings for hydraulic struts, hydraulic pumps, and stuff like that. I'd include tires and brakes if we had a more standardized fleet but this might not be worthwhile to Lancair. Exhaust systems may fall into this category, too. 3) Second priority would be parts that are likely to be damaged in a minor accident, a hangar rash incident, or (gasp!) a wheels-up landing. This might include landing gear parts and support brackets, cowlings, wingtips, nose struts, engine mounts, ailerons, rudders. Might include a wing, also, but probably not. 4) Third priority might be parts that eventually wear out, such as canopy and window transparencies. Weldments might be in this category. I would be happy with a "order it and get it in six months" since we usually get plenty of notice that these are degrading. Plexiglass light covers. These are just some thoughts from a 360 builder. Let's hear from the guys that have flown for 10 years or more... - Rob Wolf --part1_fc37.7dd97375.3994a30a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rob,
 
with respect to 320/360
 
starting from the front and in addition to the things you mentioned= (like=20 cylinder rebuild kits):
 
Engine mount, nose strut, fork, bearing spacers, mounting blocks, gas= =20 spring, actuator, pivots and links ( all unavailable anywhere else)
 
Main gear casting, leg, bearing pivots, GM1?(Link/gear pivot), links,= =20 springs, actuators, all door actuators, sequence valves (most unavailable= =20 elsewhere). 
 
Most other things can be fabricated.
 
Canopy gas springs
 
Canopy glass???
 
Otherwise, consider the aircraft totaled.
 
Wheels, etc can be obtained elsewhere.
 
The engine mount,  nose strut, fork, main gear castings and legs= would=20 seem to be hardest to reproduce elsewhere.
 
Grayhawk - I broke a lotta stuff.
 
In a message dated 8/11/2010 9:57:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 rwolf99@aol.com writes:
To answer the question of what factory part support is desired, thi= s is=20 what I'd like to be able to buy from the factory forever...
 
1)  First and foremost, any part which cannot be obtained=20 elsewhere.  This is a no-brainer, so I realize that this is not=20 particularly insightful.  But the first place to delete inventory= is=20 stuff that we can get elsewhere.  They may choose to stock items th= at we=20 can find elsewhere but they don't have to.  It's very convenient to= have=20 a one-stop shop with excellent customer service so some may choose to bu= y from=20 Lancair even if they don't have to.  I probably would if the price= was=20 competitive.  Will they make money competing with Aircraft Spruce?&= nbsp;=20 Probably not.
 
2)  First priority for Lancair would be to supply standard=20 replacement items.  This would include hydraulic cylinders, O-rings= for=20 hydraulic struts, hydraulic pumps, and stuff like that.  I'd includ= e=20 tires and brakes if we had a more standardized fleet but this might not= be=20 worthwhile to Lancair. Exhaust systems may fall into this category, too.=
 
3)  Second priority would be parts that are likely to be damag= ed in=20 a minor accident, a hangar rash incident, or (gasp!) a wheels-up=20 landing.  This might include landing gear parts and support bracket= s,=20 cowlings, wingtips, nose struts, engine mounts, ailerons, rudders. = Might=20 include a wing, also, but probably not.
 
4)  Third priority might be parts that eventually wear out, su= ch as=20 canopy and window transparencies.  Weldments might be in this=20 category.  I would be happy with a "order it and get it in six mont= hs"=20 since we usually get plenty of notice that these are degrading. =20 Plexiglass light covers.
 
These are just some thoughts from a 360 builder.  Let's hear= from=20 the guys that have flown for 10 years or more...
 
- Rob=20 Wolf

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