X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:44:05 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp0.av-mx.com ([137.118.16.56] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTP id 4396674 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:46:48 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=137.118.16.56; envelope-from=pinetownd@volcano.net Received: from DennisPC (206-229-88-157.dsl.volcano.net [206.229.88.157]) (Authenticated sender: pinetownd@volcano.net) by smtp0.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDBC1C0314 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:46:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-Message-ID: From: "Dennis Johnson" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: LII Resale Agreement X-Original-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:46:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02E3_01CB25B6.6E233DB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18197 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02E3_01CB25B6.6E233DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with Mark that Lancair's decision to apply the $300 transfer fee = to a credit for parts purchases is a good move. I thank the new owner = for that! However, in my opinion the $300 was never an issue. The = following is a quote from their resale agreement: Further, the new purchaser of a flying Lancair aircraft or an = uncompleted kit, and prior to the aircraft being transferred, must agree to have either flying Lancair = aircraft or upon first flight of an uncompleted kit inspected by our insurance inspection team. The new = purchaser must also agree to participate in any Lancair endorsed training program. These two requirements are, it seems to me, potentially very expensive. = An inspection by Lancair's "insurance inspection team" could be = thousands of dollars. The paragraph is awkwardly worded. It says the = buyer must agree to have the inspection, but it doesn't say the = inspection has to be completed and it doesn't say the airplane has to = pass the inspection. =20 One of the benefits of building my own experimental airplane is the = privilege of using materials and techniques of my own choosing, with = nobody (except the FAA, sort of) looking over my shoulder. Although I'm = confident my relatively small modifications from the official plans = would be acceptable to Lancair, there's always the possibility that some = future Lancair owner (we're now on the third since I've been building) = could decide any changes from the plans, no matter how insignificant, = must be "corrected" before allowing the new purchaser to register the = airplane. I'm not comfortable giving up that much power to Lancair. = It's my airplane, not theirs. =20 The resale agreement also says that the purchaser "must also agree to = participate in any Lancair endorsed training program." Holy moly, = that's a requirement limited only by the imagination of Lancair. A new = owner could also decide, for some insurance purpose perhaps, that the = "Lancair endorsed training program" would require who knows how many = hours in a Lancair, completed at Redmond. =20 The inspection requirement, particularly if it includes a requirement = that the inspection must be "passed," and the unbounded training = requirement, could cost a seller thousands of dollars, and possibly tens = of thousands. And I think the cost will fall on the seller, even if the = purchaser is the one who writes the check. Dennis ------=_NextPart_000_02E3_01CB25B6.6E233DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree with Mark that Lancair's decision to apply the $300 = transfer fee to=20 a credit for parts purchases is a good move.  I thank the new owner = for=20 that!  However, in my opinion the $300 was never an issue.  = The=20 following is a quote from their resale agreement:
 
Further, the new purchaser of a flying = Lancair aircraft=20 or an uncompleted kit, and prior to the
aircraft being transferred, = must=20 agree to have either flying Lancair aircraft or upon first flight of=20 an
uncompleted kit inspected by our insurance inspection team. The = new=20 purchaser must also agree to
participate in any Lancair endorsed = training=20 program.
 
These two requirements are, it seems to me, potentially very=20 expensive.  An inspection by Lancair's "insurance inspection team" = could be=20 thousands of dollars.  The paragraph is awkwardly worded.  It = says the=20 buyer must agree to have the inspection, but it doesn't say the = inspection has=20 to be completed and it doesn't say the airplane has to pass the=20 inspection. 
 
One of the benefits of building my own experimental airplane is the = privilege of using materials and techniques of my own choosing, with = nobody=20 (except the FAA, sort of) looking over my shoulder.  Although I'm=20 confident my relatively small modifications from the official plans = would=20 be acceptable to Lancair, there's always the possibility that some = future=20 Lancair owner (we're now on the third since I've been building) could = decide any=20 changes from the plans, no matter how insignificant, must be "corrected" = before=20 allowing the new purchaser to register the airplane.  I'm not = comfortable=20 giving up that much power to Lancair.  It's my airplane, not=20 theirs. 
 
The resale agreement also says that the purchaser "must also agree = to=20 participate in any Lancair endorsed training program."  Holy moly, = that's a=20 requirement limited only by the imagination of Lancair. A new owner = could=20 also decide, for some insurance purpose perhaps, that the = "Lancair=20 endorsed training program" would require who knows how = many hours in a=20 Lancair, completed at Redmond. 
 
The inspection requirement, particularly if it includes a = requirement=20 that the inspection must be "passed," and the unbounded training=20 requirement, could cost a seller thousands of dollars, and possibly = tens of=20 thousands.  And I think the cost will fall on the seller, even = if the=20 purchaser is the one who writes the check.
 
Dennis   
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