X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 22:27:25 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTP id 4383030 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:19:33 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.42; envelope-from=RWolf99@aol.com Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o670IfOS015048 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 20:18:41 -0400 Received: from RWolf99@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.d0d.76fce482 (43952) for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 20:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.141]) by cia-dd01.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD011-5c4d4c33c7da102; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:18:35 -0400 Received: from webmail-m044 (webmail-m044.sim.aol.com [64.12.101.227]) by smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA023-5c4d4c33c7da102; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:18:34 -0400 X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Various 326/360 issues X-Original-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:18:34 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 174.18.214.178 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rwolf99@aol.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CCEB81122EBDBE_B6C_6DBD_webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32213-STANDARD Received: from 174.18.214.178 by webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.227) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:18:34 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CCEB811229FAFE-B6C-34FF@webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: RWolf99@aol.com ----------MB_8CCEB81122EBDBE_B6C_6DBD_webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Scott - Your statement was very interesting -- "check the fuselage flap filets at= the trailing edge. if these are not level, the wing TE (and thus the cho= rd) may not be equal from side to side" I had no idea that this was a possibility. I assumed that the fuselage fi= llets were always level. I did know that the tailcones have a twist -- in= fact some guys adjust their rudder cables so that they are level with res= pect to each other, and other guys (like me) leave them alone. Next time= I have the water level out I'll go look at the fillets on my (not yet flo= wn) airplane. With respect to your comments about the variability of pitch response betw= een different 320/360 aircraft, I learned there as well. I did not know= that 235s did not have a bobweight. I had also forgotten about the long= engine mount. My personal experience is limited. I have flown in two 360s. One was hor= rible (very pitch sensitive with very low stick forces and low pitch dampi= ng) and the other was a pure delight to fly. I do not know what the diffe= rences were. The nice airplane was Orin Riddell's and I know it had a big= tail and a very far forward CG. On the other one, I do not know what the= CG was or whether it had a big or small tail or whether the bellcrank arm= was the long or short location. I just know that it was rather scary to= fly, and that I was not the only one at the field who thought it was a pr= oblem. So your basic point -- that there can be significant differences= between flying qualities of seemingly identical aircraft -- is definitely= correct. It also suggests that we may be able to improve the handling qu= alities of our own aircraft perhaps even after they are built (without cut= ting off the tail, I mean). Along those lines, has anyone installed a heavier bobweight on their 320/3= 60? - Rob Wolf ----------MB_8CCEB81122EBDBE_B6C_6DBD_webmail-m044.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Scott -
 
Your statement was very interesting -- "check the fuselage flap filet= s at the trailing edge.  if these are not level, the wing TE (and thu= s the chord) may not be equal from side to side"
 
I had no idea that this was a possibility.  I assumed that the= fuselage fillets were always level.  I did know that the tailcones= have a twist -- in fact some guys adjust their rudder cables so that they= are level with respect to each other, and other guys (like me) leave them= alone.  Next time I have the water level out I'll go look at the fil= lets on my (not yet flown) airplane.
 
With respect to your comments about the variability of pitch response= between different 320/360 aircraft, I learned there as well.  I did= not know that 235s did not have a bobweight.  I had also forgot= ten about the long engine mount.
 
My personal experience is limited.  I have flown in two 360s.&nb= sp; One was horrible (very pitch sensitive with very low stick forces and= low pitch damping) and the other was a pure delight to fly.  I do no= t know what the differences were.  The nice airplane was Orin Riddell= 's and I know it had a big tail and a very far forward CG.  On the ot= her one, I do not know what the CG was or whether it had a big or small ta= il or whether the bellcrank arm was the long or short location.  I ju= st know that it was rather scary to fly, and that I was not the only one= at the field who thought it was a problem.  So your basic point --= that there can be significant differences between flying qualities of see= mingly identical aircraft -- is definitely correct.  It also suggests= that we may be able to improve the handling qualities of our own aircraft= perhaps even after they are built (without cutting off the tail, I mean).=
 
Along those lines, has anyone installed a heavier bobweight on their= 320/360?
 
- Rob Wolf

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