Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #53943
From: Bill Wade <super_chipmunk@roadrunner.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Firewall
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:36:37 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
  I agree- finding a suitable temperature range in a specific location would be difficult with the engine changing temperatures constantly as loading varied and cooling airflow changed. The outlet would show any increase no matter what the source.
 
  I'm thinking about point sources like exhaust joints or turbochargers affecting nearby hoses. There are temperature indicating tapes that could be placed to determine what the normal temperatures might be. It might be possible to choose a fuse that would blow when the hose first became exposed rather than allowing failure to create an alarm at the outlet.  -Bill
Bill,


I considered your approach when building my Lancair IV-P, and elected to go with two temperature sensors instead. Rationale was that I didn’t know how to “calibrate” the thermal fuses without testing that was beyond my capability…and probably interest. Basically I decided to install temperature sensors near each  cowling air exit rather than guess at what value to use for the thermal fuses. I hooked the temperature sensors to my MVP-50 engine monitoring system and recorded the actual temperatures seen by the two probes during initial test flying. After determining that the temps never went above 150F during flight or ground operation, I set the alarm “trigger” temp for 170F. My normal temperatures run between 120-135F in flight, meaning I will get a warning if the cowl exit temperature increased by 35-50 degrees from “normal.”  This is an arbitrary setting that has precluded any false alarm to date…but then again I’ve not yet had a real alarm either. I could probably generate an earlier warning by lowering the alarm temp, and may do so the next time I fiddle with the MVP-50 alarm settings. Of course, the objective is to generate an alarm for any “real” event, but to not generate false alarms. This took quite a bit of fiddling with most of the settings, but I am now very comfortable with what I have…and love the system.

 

Considering the consequences, I think a fire/overheat monitoring system in the engine compartment is a very good idea, no matter what system you use!

 

Bob

 

PS: The actual temperatures will be dependent on the sensor/fuse mounting location…so don’t use my figures; it’s easy to determine your own…

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