X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:38:19 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from blu0-omc3-s36.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.111] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c4) with ESMTP id 4032661 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:54:57 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.116.111; envelope-from=randystuart@hotmail.com Received: from BLU0-SMTP83 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s36.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:54:21 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [99.163.183.180] X-Originating-Email: [randystuart@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: randystuart@hotmail.com Received: from laptop ([99.163.183.180]) by BLU0-SMTP83.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:54:20 -0800 From: "Randy" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Tone on list X-Original-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:54:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2009 00:54:20.0863 (UTC) FILETIME=[2182F4F0:01CA81D8] I believe Lynn answered that post about the LNC-4 breaking up in a storm. I don't think Vne was his biggest problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamid Wasti" To: Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: [LML] Re: Tone on list > Colyn Case at earthlink wrote: >> I don't think it follows that if none of the few hundred flying samples >> provably had Vne failures.... > That, unfortunately, is a sad reflection on the contemporary state of > discourse: If you do not like the facts, shout loudly, frequently and > forcefully till your delusions are accepted as fact. > > Clearly, Randy's loud shouting is having the desired effect and people are > making posts, incorrectly accepting it as a fact that there have been no > documented Vne failures in Lancairs. The shouting has drowned out the > calmly written posts by Scott and Jeff where they have pointed out the > Ainsworth crash in Canada (including the link to the full report) where a > IV-P disintegrated in a powered dive past Vne. > > I agree with everything else Colyn wrote in his post. > > Regards, > > Hamid > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >