X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:34:34 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from betsy.gendns5.com ([65.254.38.234] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c4) with ESMTPS id 4031963 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:38:34 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.254.38.234; envelope-from=paul@tbm700.com Received: from 6.21.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com ([68.204.21.6]:64204 helo=[192.168.1.107]) by betsy.gendns5.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMLys-0004sK-TD for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:37:55 -0500 From: paul miller Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--458768392 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Firewall X-Original-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:37:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - betsy.gendns5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tbm700.com --Apple-Mail-4--458768392 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jeff: Did the topic of smoke hoods enter into the discussion at any = time? I kept a few lightweight cannisters (EVAC-U8) hoods in the TBM = 700 since the descent from flight levels would be at least 3 minutes at = 10,000 fpm. I also kept them in our condo for stair evacuation in the = event of fire. They are cheap and I believe have a 10-year life. The = product I bought is now sold by DuPont and might be interesting to = anyone who might want to buy some extra time in a smoke situation, = whether in an airplane, airline, hotel or other location. I don't have = them in the Legacy but this discussion has reminded me that it is cheap = insurance so I'll get another two. Here's the product I bought but I = notice Aircraft Spruce 2 different types and not the evac-u8. =20 http://thetravelinsider.com/travelaccessories/evacu8smokehood.htm Paul Miller Spruce Creek FL Legacy N357V On 2009-12-20, at 2:44 AM, vtailjeff@aol.com wrote: > I investigated three inflight fires in 1996 including the Florida = Everglades Valujet crash. No one had more than 5 minutes from discovery = of fire to loss of control. Trying to get to an airport is an = impossiblity unless you are on a one mile final. Get it on the ground = asap. > =20 > Jeff >=20 --Apple-Mail-4--458768392 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Jeff: = Did the topic of smoke hoods enter into the discussion at any time? =   I kept a few lightweight cannisters (EVAC-U8) hoods in the TBM = 700 since the descent from flight levels would be at least 3 minutes at = 10,000 fpm.  I also kept them in our condo for stair evacuation in = the event of fire.  They are cheap and I believe have a 10-year = life.   The product I bought is now sold by DuPont and might be = interesting to anyone who might want to buy some extra time in a smoke = situation, whether in an airplane, airline, hotel or other location. =  I don't have them in the Legacy but this discussion has reminded = me that it is cheap insurance so I'll get another two.   Here's the = product I bought but I notice Aircraft Spruce 2 different types and not = the evac-u8.  

http://thetravelinsider.com/travelaccessories/evacu8smokehood.htm

Paul Miller
Spruce Creek = FL
Legacy N357V

On = 2009-12-20, at 2:44 AM, vtailjeff@aol.com wrote:

I investigated three = inflight fires in 1996 including the Florida Everglades Valujet crash. = No one had more  than 5 minutes from discovery of fire to loss of = control. Trying to get to an airport is an impossiblity unless you are = on a one mile final. Get it on the ground asap.
 
Jeff


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