X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:34:34 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from jrcda.com ([206.130.116.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c4) with ESMTPS id 4032031 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:09:37 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.130.116.53; envelope-from=hwasti@lm50.com Received: from [192.168.1.102] (207-170-226-183.static.twtelecom.net [207.170.226.183]) (authenticated bits=0) by jrcda.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nBKF8vF5009331 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:08:58 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <4B2E3E10.1050608@lm50.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:09:04 -0800 From: Hamid Wasti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Tone on list References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colyn Case at earthlink wrote: > I don't think it follows that if none of the few hundred flying > samples provably had Vne failures.... That, unfortunately, is a sad reflection on the contemporary state of discourse: If you do not like the facts, shout loudly, frequently and forcefully till your delusions are accepted as fact. Clearly, Randy's loud shouting is having the desired effect and people are making posts, incorrectly accepting it as a fact that there have been no documented Vne failures in Lancairs. The shouting has drowned out the calmly written posts by Scott and Jeff where they have pointed out the Ainsworth crash in Canada (including the link to the full report) where a IV-P disintegrated in a powered dive past Vne. I agree with everything else Colyn wrote in his post. Regards, Hamid