X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: <marv@lancaironline.net> Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net> To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:48:18 -0500 Message-ID: <redirect-4012818@logan.com> X-Original-Return-Path: <colyncase@earthlink.net> Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.62] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c3) with ESMTP id 4012720 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:44:20 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.62; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VNaF+O991lMu6czR7ZyV8nuJ1EpvndQ13V6btczS6NbQ9ITbw95O2QA/tqn2xyPW; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [216.57.118.33] (helo=ccaselt3) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from <colyncase@earthlink.net>) id 1NIVG6-0001Ms-Bk for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:43:46 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <EFD2CDB8A2844E6083A691ACC2BA4F5C@nvidia.com> From: "Colyn Case at earthlink" <colyncase@earthlink.net> X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" <lml@lancaironline.net> References: <list-4004921@logan.com> Subject: Re: [LML] IV-P alternator woes X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:43:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_029E_01CA78F7.27F1BE50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da9400eea90af65e8d4ae119f95309e1c0762350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.57.118.33 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_029E_01CA78F7.27F1BE50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andres, Are you talking about the field CB? Can you say which regulator? If it's the standard b&c I believe it has a crowbar circuit for over = voltage. It intentionally shorts the field supply to ground so that = the field CB pops, thereby averting a major problem. When you say you "checked" the regulator, what do you mean exactly? Did = you check at what voltage turns off the alternator? Based on what you describe it sounds like the regulator is either not = adjusted correctly or defective. Colyn ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dr Andre Katz=20 To: LML=20 Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: [LML] IV-P alternator woes during an approach to taos in the middle of a snow shower my = alternator switch popped out tried to reset a couple of times but kept turning itself down used the back up alternator but had to keep the radios on during the = instrument approach which had to be terminated since the runway got full = of slush and 4 inches of snow so to santa fe the electricians detected a hot alternator and for 48 hrs tried to = diagnose the problem=20 apparently the alternator is not shutting itself of=20 checked the voltage regulator the switch, the alternator and could not = come up with an answer went back to dallas VFR with all radios off and handheld GPS with the = backup alternator providing enough juice any ideas will be appreciated dont know much about damn electrons.... andres IV-P alternator is almost new 40 hrs since new ------=_NextPart_000_029E_01CA78F7.27F1BE50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <STYLE type=3Dtext/css>DIV { MARGIN: 0px } </STYLE> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16915" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andres,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you talking about the field = CB?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can you say which = regulator?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If it's the standard b&c I believe = it has a=20 crowbar circuit for over voltage. It intentionally shorts = the field=20 supply to ground so that the field CB pops, thereby averting a major=20 problem.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When you say you "checked" the = regulator, what do=20 you mean exactly? Did you check at what voltage turns off the=20 alternator?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Based on what you describe it sounds = like the=20 regulator is either not adjusted correctly or defective.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Colyn</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dbu131@swbell.net href=3D"mailto:bu131@swbell.net">Dr Andre = Katz</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3DLML=20 href=3D"mailto:LML">LML</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 06, 2009 = 12:32=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [LML] IV-P alternator = woes</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif"> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif"><BR> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif">during=20 an approach to taos in the middle of a snow shower my alternator = switch popped=20 out</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif">tried=20 to reset a couple of times but kept turning itself down</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif">used=20 the back up alternator but had to keep the radios on during the = instrument=20 approach which had to be terminated since the runway got full of slush = and 4=20 inches of snow so to santa fe</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif">the=20 electricians detected a hot alternator and for 48 hrs tried to = diagnose the=20 problem </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif">apparently=20 the alternator is not shutting itself of </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif">checked the=20 voltage regulator the switch, the alternator and could not come up = with an=20 answer</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif">went=20 back to dallas VFR with all radios off and handheld GPS with the = backup=20 alternator providing enough juice</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif">any=20 ideas will be appreciated</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif">dont=20 know much about damn electrons....</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, = sans-serif">andres=20 IV-P alternator is almost new 40 hrs since=20 new</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_029E_01CA78F7.27F1BE50--