X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:04:43 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.190] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c3) with ESMTP id 4012143 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:34:10 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.239.58.190; envelope-from=keith.smith@gmail.com Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n40so114607gve.13 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:33:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LKQ4Z+BNhfOtgJdht7IyYkv+F9njKDQNfnF3Wmu+577E/OTlcID4fbHMy5Sa8IO02R yMXUKQxt1U6hrIBj47nwuuQSRcIjWxXimSvucvbZ+YDD9d17oiYGAGsGtGXHi03K7sjs oUok7rRS9vQpykTI75Mgm3vNtpT3mkas4NfCc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.76.22 with SMTP id d22mr1592987mul.63.1260376415649; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:33:35 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:33:35 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <705847490912090833v3d78fcb2y1bf21a02df2e350e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: clarification on 'aileron roll' From: Keith Smith X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To anyone confused by my reference to a 'strict' or 'pure' aileron roll vs something that is aileron roll-ish, I apologize. Based on my readings years ago, I was under the impression that aileron rolls were done with minimal change in pitch (consequently, incurring -1G for a brief moment during the inverted portion), involving forward pressure on the elevator. Checking the IAC web site, I see their definition of an aileron roll allows for massive changes in pitch, starting with a large pitch up, full aileron deflection, allowing the nose to fall throughout the process. This changes the profile substantially, then, and is basically what I flew the second time around. I'll stop referring to it as a pseudo aileron roll, then, and just call it an aileron roll since my definition of a pure aileron roll was different and incorrect. That said, I'm still not using full deflection, but that isn't material here.