X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:21:12 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.80] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3903245 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:13:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.80; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from OMTA20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yLdE1c0061smiN4A8MD0yG; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:13:00 +0000 Received: from [10.128.90.251] ([75.151.125.133]) by OMTA20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yMCw1c00Q2soXEK8gMCxaX; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:13:00 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.17.0.090302 X-Original-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:12:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: N127EM First Flight From: John Hafen X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: N127EM First Flight Thread-Index: AcpYE2qgo1xdSAOdL0aZh8qM1C1aFA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3339583979_1010293" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3339583979_1010293 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Bryan: Well done! It only gets better from here. =B3Better,=B2 is when you throw your wife and golf clubs in the plane and can b= e to Sun Valley Idaho from Seattle in one hour and 45 minutes, versus a 12 hour drive. I keep a couple of bags of Doritos in the back so they will explode in the event we lose cabin pressure and I don=B9t otherwise notice it= . My fearless test pilot was Len Fox. I went up on ride two with him, which was only my second flight ever in a Lancair of any type. Beyond exciting. And the wings didn=B9t even fall off! He even let me fly! (Now THAT=B9s scary!= ) After two days and multiple test flights, Len, who has cajones way bigger than watermelons, flatly announced, =B3My work here, is finished.=B2 He did an about face, excused himself, and departed. WHAT a GUY!! Now, 200 hours and numerous oil changes later, the fun continues. Gratefully, not as exciting (scary) as my first solo flight (after HPAT training) but always exciting never-the-less. Enjoy your new bird. You deserve it! John Hafen N413AJ On 10/28/09 5:43 AM, "Bryan Wullner" wrote: > You want more details here they are. > I am not qualified to test fly the airplane so I enlisted the help of ano= ther > Lancair owner and pilot at my airfield. He did a test run last week and > everything looked ok so we planned to do the test flight a week later on > Sunday 10/25. > Typical nice sunny sunday afternoon in Southern CA. I was finishing up so= me > last minute checks on the airplane and about 130PM the test pilot showed = up at > the hangar and was ready to go. It was pretty hot (90) and the winds were > starting to pick up. > Even though I wasn't flying the airplane I was very nervous. I started to > question why I put myself through all this. =A0I can say with 100% certaint= y > that I would never do a first flight and the people who do have some seri= ous > skills and confidence!!!=A0 > I wasted no time getting the plane out of the hangar and the pilot jumped= in. > After a few minutes of going over some things he was started up and taxin= g > out. I hoped in the airport ops truck and followed him out.=A0 > We had a chase plane lined up (another lancair 360) and he was getting re= ady > to go as well. =A0After run up and one high speed run down the runway N127E= M > taxied back to the hold short for take off. > This was it.......I watched thru binoculars as the power came in and the = speed > started to build. =A0We followed the airplane down the runway and finally i= t > popped into the air and the ground was falling away. > The climb was a little shallow as the pilot indicated the temps were clim= bing > and he was trying to control them. =A0He leveled off at 680 feet and starte= d a > turn to downwind. I heard him tell tower he was coming back for landing a= nd my > heart dropped. But then he radioed back and said he was going to stay out= a > bit. He climbed higher to 2000 feet. The tower said they couldn't pick up= the > transponder.....I watched the plane thru the binoculars as it passed over= head > and all looked good. He kept the speed at 120 knots incase he need to dro= p the > gear and head for the runway quickly. The chase plane was up but never re= ally > got a chance to get close as after about 7 minutes he radio'd in and said= he > was coming back in for landing.=A0 > It was pretty windy and tower was reporting low level windshear. =A0I could= see > N127EM coming in on final a little high and with the gear up. He was tryi= ng to > cool things off and see if the oil temp would come down. Sure looked good > coming in all cleaned up. =A0Eventually he dropped the gear and came over t= he > fence at 95 knots. =A0Slowed to 85 over the threshold and finally let it bl= eed > off and settle down for a very nice gentle landing. WOW I couldn't believ= e my > airplane FLIES!!!!! > The pressure was off and I couldn't wait to get a report. I felt much rel= ief. > He taxied back and reported the airplane handled great but the Temps were= an > issue. For those wondering the oil hit 240. The CHT hit 404 but those cam= e > down as the climb was reduced.=A0 > Now I have some trouble shooting to do with the oil and cht's and soon we= will > give it another go. Nothing else wrong with it though, which is good!! >=20 > On the drive home I called my wife and a few close friends who I knew act= ually > cared that my plane was flying and told them the good news. Got home got = a > beer and kicked back on the couch thinking about what just happened. =A0 > The coolness factor didn't actually hit me until the following day. =A0The = day > of was soo nerve racking I didn't get to enjoy it. >=20 > I dont know if the Test Pilot wants to be mentioned but I think its deser= ving. > I hope he doesn't mind. A BIG THANK YOU to Denis Conkey for bravely going > where most men never want to go!!!!!=A0 >=20 > Bryan > N127EM >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Matt Reeves wrote= : >> Bryan, >>=20 >> CONGRATULATIONS!!!!=A0=A0 But you are not going to get away with THAT.=A0 As >> always, we need more details.=A0 Like, how was the day, what was it like t= o >> open the hangar door that day, how fast was your heart going, did you vi= deo >> it, what were you feeling, etc. etc. etc. >>=20 >> When I first flew my 320 about 1 1/2 years ago, I had done several hours= of >> taxi tests and when I actually took off, it was so cool - and soooo fun = but I >> remember looking down at my hangar going by in almost a blur and seeing = how >> small it was and thinking, "cool, I'm really flying"=A0 This thing really >> flies!!=A0=A0=20 >>=20 >> I remember climbing up to about 5000 feet and doing some turns and think= ing >> this is the coolest plane on the planet.=A0 So responsive, so sexy, so wor= th >> it!!!=A0 Yes, I pre-planned everything including places to land at differe= nt >> altitudes if I lost my engine.=A0 I even GPS'd possible landing spots, due= to >> winds, etc, and had local volunteer fire people all around.=A0=A0 And for >> everyone who wants to lecture me about doing my own flight testing, I di= d >> have some very valuable 320 time with a great friend from Norfolk and it >> worked out great!!=A0=A0 The 320 is a great airplane and one of the best loo= king >> airplanes ever. >>=20 >> So, please - send more info!! >>=20 >> Looks like a beautiful plane to be proud of!!=A0 My 320 is down for paint = for >> at least one more month so please, we need more info!!! >>=20 >> Matt >>=20 >> --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Bryan Wullner wrote: >>>=20 >>> From: Bryan Wullner >>> Subject: [LML] N127EM First Flight >>> To: lml@lancaironline.net >>> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:16 AM >>>=20 >>> N127EM took flight on 10/25/09 for the first time in its life. Very sho= rt >>> flight due to some high oil temps and slightly high CHT but other than = that >>> all went well.=20 >>> Now just have to figure out why the high temps. >>> Bryan >>> =A0 >>>=20 >>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>>=20 >>> -- >>> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.= html >>=20 >> =20 >=20 >=20 --B_3339583979_1010293 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [LML] Re: N127EM First Flight Bryan:

Well done!  It only gets better from here.

“Better,” is when you throw your wife and golf clubs in the pla= ne and can be to Sun Valley Idaho from Seattle in one hour and 45 minutes, v= ersus a 12 hour drive.  I keep a couple of bags of Doritos in the back = so they will explode in the event we lose cabin pressure and I don’t o= therwise notice it.

My fearless test pilot was Len Fox.  I went up on ride two with him, w= hich was only my second flight ever in a Lancair of any type.  Beyond e= xciting.  And the wings didn’t even fall off!  He even let m= e fly! (Now THAT’s scary!)

After two days and multiple test flights, Len, who has cajones way bigger t= han watermelons, flatly announced, “My work here, is finished.” =  He did an about face, excused himself, and departed.

WHAT a GUY!!

Now, 200 hours and numerous oil changes later, the fun continues.  Gra= tefully, not as exciting (scary) as my first solo flight (after HPAT trainin= g) but always exciting never-the-less.

Enjoy your new bird.  You deserve it!

John Hafen
N413AJ



On 10/28/09 5:43 AM, "Bryan Wullner" <vonjet@gmail.com> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>You want more details here they are.
I am not qualified to test fly the airplane so I enlisted the help of anoth= er Lancair owner and pilot at my airfield. He did a test run last week and e= verything looked ok so we planned to do the test flight a week later on Sund= ay 10/25.
Typical nice sunny sunday afternoon in Southern CA. I was finishing up some= last minute checks on the airplane and about 130PM the test pilot showed up= at the hangar and was ready to go. It was pretty hot (90) and the winds wer= e starting to pick up.
Even though I wasn't flying the airplane I was very nervous. I started to q= uestion why I put myself through all this. =A0I can say with 100% certainty th= at I would never do a first flight and the people who do have some serious s= kills and confidence!!!=A0
I wasted no time getting the plane out of the hangar and the pilot jumped i= n. After a few minutes of going over some things he was started up and taxin= g out. I hoped in the airport ops truck and followed him out.=A0
We had a chase plane lined up (another lancair 360) and he was getting read= y to go as well. =A0After run up and one high speed run down the runway N127EM= taxied back to the hold short for take off.
This was it.......I watched thru binoculars as the power came in and the sp= eed started to build. =A0We followed the airplane down the runway and finally = it popped into the air and the ground was falling away.
The climb was a little shallow as the pilot indicated the temps were climbi= ng and he was trying to control them. =A0He leveled off at 680 feet and starte= d a turn to downwind. I heard him tell tower he was coming back for landing = and my heart dropped. But then he radioed back and said he was going to stay= out a bit. He climbed higher to 2000 feet. The tower said they couldn't pic= k up the transponder.....I watched the plane thru the binoculars as it passe= d overhead and all looked good. He kept the speed at 120 knots incase he nee= d to drop the gear and head for the runway quickly. The chase plane was up b= ut never really got a chance to get close as after about 7 minutes he radio'= d in and said he was coming back in for landing.=A0
It was pretty windy and tower was reporting low level windshear. =A0I could s= ee N127EM coming in on final a little high and with the gear up. He was tryi= ng to cool things off and see if the oil temp would come down. Sure looked g= ood coming in all cleaned up. =A0Eventually he dropped the gear and came over = the fence at 95 knots. =A0Slowed to 85 over the threshold and finally let it b= leed off and settle down for a very nice gentle landing. WOW I couldn't beli= eve my airplane FLIES!!!!!
The pressure was off and I couldn't wait to get a report. I felt much relie= f.
He taxied back and reported the airplane handled great but the Temps were a= n issue. For those wondering the oil hit 240. The CHT hit 404 but those came= down as the climb was reduced.=A0
Now I have some trouble shooting to do with the oil and cht's and soon we w= ill give it another go. Nothing else wrong with it though, which is good!!
On the drive home I called my wife and a few close friends who I knew actua= lly cared that my plane was flying and told them the good news. Got home got= a beer and kicked back on the couch thinking about what just happened. =A0 The coolness factor didn't actually hit me until the following day. =A0The da= y of was soo nerve racking I didn't get to enjoy it.

I dont know if the Test Pilot wants to be mentioned but I think its deservi= ng. I hope he doesn't mind. A BIG THANK YOU to Denis Conkey for bravely goin= g where most men never want to go!!!!!=A0

Bryan
N127EM


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Matt Reeves <mattreeves@yahoo.com> wrote:
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>Bryan,

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!=A0=A0 But you are not going to get away with THAT.=A0 As alwa= ys, we need more details.=A0 Like, how was the day, what was it like to open t= he hangar door that day, how fast was your heart going, did you video it, wh= at were you feeling, etc. etc. etc.

When I first flew my 320 about 1 1/2 years ago, I had done several hours of= taxi tests and when I actually took off, it was so cool - and soooo fun but= I remember looking down at my hangar going by in almost a blur and seeing h= ow small it was and thinking, "cool, I'm really flying"=A0 This thin= g really flies!!=A0=A0

I remember climbing up to about 5000 feet and doing some turns and thinking= this is the coolest plane on the planet.=A0 So responsive, so sexy, so worth = it!!!=A0 Yes, I pre-planned everything including places to land at different a= ltitudes if I lost my engine.=A0 I even GPS'd possible landing spots, due to w= inds, etc, and had local volunteer fire people all around.=A0=A0 And for everyon= e who wants to lecture me about doing my own flight testing, I did have some= very valuable 320 time with a great friend from Norfolk and it worked out g= reat!!=A0=A0 The 320 is a great airplane and one of the best looking airplanes e= ver.

So, please - send more info!!

Looks like a beautiful plane to be proud of!!=A0 My 320 is down for paint for= at least one more month so please, we need more info!!!

Matt

--- On Tue, 10/27/09, Bryan Wullner <vo= njet@gmail.com> wrote:
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>
From: Bryan Wullner <vonjet@gmail.com>=
Subject: [LML] N127EM First Flight
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 9:16 AM

N127EM took flight on 10/25/09 for the first time in its life. Very short f= light due to some high oil temps and slightly high CHT but other than that a= ll went well.
Now just have to figure out why the high temps.
Bryan
=A0

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