----- Original Message -----

From: Craig Gainza

To: lml@lancaironline.net

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM

Subject: [LML] Re: OSH arrival

The warbird arrival is the best way to go.  We call in black and white Lancair over Fond du Lac and have never been questioned.  This year they asked us if we could keep our speed up in front of the mass arrival of 40+ RV's.  No problem!

We were out of the airplane at Aeroshell square before the RV's landed.

Craig and Sandy Gainza
IV-P 

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To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:24:00 -0400
From: vtailjeff@aol.com
Subject: [LML] Re: OSH arrival

nope--not at all


-----Original Message-----
From: Colyn Case at earthlink <colyncase@earthlink.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2009 6:52 am
Subject: [LML] Re: OSH arrival

do you actually have to lie to get the warbird arrival?

----- Original Message -----

From: Wendell Solesbee

To: lml@lancaironline.net

Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:49 PM

Subject: [LML] Re: OSH arrival

I used the warbird arrival this year with no problems. I reported at Fond du Lac and again at Warbird Island and was cleared to land on runway 36. Other than a 20 kt crosswind there were no problems. IN 2008 when using the FISK arrival I had to go around three times. When I tried to extend out to give myself some room someone would cut in front of me.On the last go around I passed a bonanza on about a one mile final and landed ahead of him. That experience made me decide to use the warbird arrival the next year and it worked great.  

 

Wendell Solesbee IVP  N4LK

----- Original Message -----

From: Douglas Brunner

To: lml@lancaironline.net

Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:33 AM

Subject: [LML] Re: OSH arrival

Bill,

 

I absolutely agree with you.  I avoid flying into Oshkosh and Sun n Fun for much the same reasons as you detail below.

 

Tried to get the warbird arrival last year.  I even arranged it with the tower at Fond du Lac.  On my way in to Oshkosh, I was asked if I was a Warbird - I honestly told them I was not - they told me I could not have the warbird arrival.  I then tried to get the "turbine arrival" - they asked me if I was a turbine - again I replied honestly and they told me I could not have the "turbine arrival".  I was forced to make a short pattern and land on the taxiway - which actually worked OK.

 

I don't think the Oshkosh controllers have any idea about the V speeds of the planes they are controlling.  Their emphasis is on getting everyone in as quickly as possible whether safely or not.