Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #52696
From: Bob Rickard <bobaloof16@cox.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Re: What may have caused Kaboom at 16.5
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:03:25 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

 

Do what the old guys did, and what they do in the altitude chamber - use a balloon or a latex glove.  Tie it closed at SLP (or at 8k cabin pressure), and if you lose cabin pressure it gets BIG! And no chips to get in your eyes while screaming downhill.    And don't worry either.  Unless you are above FL250, your time of useful consciousness (TUC) is plenty long enough to get your mask on and O2 going (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_Useful_Consciousness ).  I wouldn't fly above that high because you are very susceptible to the bends if you have rapid-D above that height as well.   I in fact had rapid-D at 210 a few months back (accidentally hit the door seal switch) and my training in the chamber over the years finally paid off!

 

The guys up at RDD Enterprises have a guy who is really good at filling in this exact part in the IV-P door, you might want to get in touch with them (in Redmond).

 

Bob Rickard (current F-16 guy too)

L-IVP

 

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of marv@lancair.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:12 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: What may have caused Kaboom at 16.5

 

Posted for John Hafen <j.hafen@comcast.net>:

 As I looked at the seal and its distance to the door frame at various places
 around the frame, I could see that it was fairly close all around (1/8 to
 1/4 inch) except for where it blew (right by the stick).  In that area,
 there was a gap of 1/2 inch to perhaps 5/8ths inch.  The thought is that as
 the seal rounds the 90 degree corner, it is already ³stretched² (because of
 the 90 degree bend) and has less expansion capacity than it would in a
 straight or flat area.  So the area was raised (see below) to narrow the
 gap, that hopefully will support the new $450 seal better (limit the
 expansion required).
 
 Meanwhile, based on posts from many of you, Iıve decided to permanently hang
 a bag of corn chips from the middle of the Rosen Sun Visors.  If I ever lose
 cabin pressure again, I anticipate the bag will blow, providing both an
 audible and visual warning of cabin depressurization (my fatherıs idea,
 actually). Iım trying to figure out a way to have the exploding corn chip
 bag automatically turn on the emergency oxygen supply, but I havenıt figured
 that our out quite yet.
 
 Cheers
 
 John Hafen
 N413AJ  IV (soon to be P) 160 hours

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