X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:45:55 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp-auth-05.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net ([206.210.66.138] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 3682792 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:21:49 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.210.66.138; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from HTBOB001 (static-71-178-198-10.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.178.198.10]) by smtp-auth-05.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 33B3AE454A for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:21:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert Pastusek" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] IV (-P) Aileron Crossover Tube X-Original-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:21:09 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <04f701c9edbc$29af03e0$7d0d0ba0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcntqWNrBy4vFClJQzuX8kdqR87YoAADn4Zw Content-Language: en-us Bill Wade wrote: I'm trying to set up the joystick torque tubes- I have the type where the forward arms are oriented down, not up as shown in the Manual. Setting up the 10 degree slope called for means that the aileron crossover tube won't clear the nose wheel housing. It seems plain that the forward torque tube bearings have to be raised enough for it to clear. My question is: what's a good height for the crossover tube? If it just clears the housing it seems it'll be below the lower edge of the instrument panel. In that position could someone's leg hit it? If it was set higher could it interfere with engine and prop control placement? My instinct is to have it just above the bottom of the instrument panel but I'd like to know what has worked for other builders. Bill, I'd recommend you move the mounting brackets for the forward ends of the aileron torque tubes up just enough to allow the cross-over tube to clear the top of the nose wheel well. 1/4" of clearance is enough; perhaps 3/8" if you're concerned. The crossover tube moves up vertically when you move the ailerons, so the neutral stick position is the closest the crossover tube will come to the nose gear tunnel. It won't matter that the crossover tube is slightly below the bottom of the instrument panel, and you'll thank yourself a hundred times for the space when you start installing avionics and wiring. No way will your legs/knees be able to touch the cross over tube--give it a sit test to note that you can't extend your legs/knees completely horizontally...you probably can't even touch it without picking your feet up off the fuselage floor. Do pay attention to where the throttle/mixture/pitch controls run in this area...especially if you're changing the control configuration/location at all, as these controls extend straight behind the panel for several inches, and must be kept well clear of the crossover tube--allowing space for the tube to move vertically as you activate aileron control. Last point. When you raise the front mounting point for the aileron torque tubes, you upset the 90 degree geometry between the aileron torque tubes and the vertical aileron push rods. Be sure to relocate (tilt) the rear aileron torque tube mounting frame slightly to maintain the geometry. Basically, start with where the aileron control tube passes into the fuselage as the reference point. Move up to the rear aileron torque tube pivot point. Move this point aft (tilted toward the rear of the fuselage) to generate a 90 degree angle between the (not quite) vertical control rod and the aileron torque tube. Hold this geometry and "swing" the forward end of the torque tube to the position you established based on crossover tube spacing. (It's harder to write than to do, and it doesn't have to be perfect. The spherical bearings will allow a couple of degrees of mis-alignment, but the closer you can get to a 90 degree angle between the torque tube and the vertical push rod, the better. Write or call if questions on this. Bob Pastusek