X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:02:19 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web80012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.92.118] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with SMTP id 3661190 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:46:50 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.147.92.118; envelope-from=bu131@swbell.net Received: (qmail 43980 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jun 2009 11:46:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=swbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=V/p9FVZpmJij99TrKwya/ekuxMCaipe/B+IZfvW2JdLz3bj6mwC1GIneicvEHfl7hjTOs9pFwiSGRE90tRGPaidNjJyi8oUq1HES2EM5bHAMKatYo4BpeigqsG3dhnJd/TtaA7sqJ9GjSenAW3fWuCTzlz5JszkcQnKCx3HfgC4=; X-Original-Message-ID: <407154.41818.qm@web80012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4qP8qzsVM1lLVpi9YtFoLjlyFd2vUgxWhE3paOlpA4aJbZ2Nj8lO4N2q8zKfGTFuy0ydP_wL4WF1YYMcrbR0RrTjGsX.amIcROsj8pl2KNOHqJG69LsYsCjYK7eZxhcQvemHnpu5zgAzvnhrdyxbxNBhncnEwhmKBEERVtKrRHhc.QxQ9ZrwjTuzciVGXRbAfXNwO1a2p2PDJqKaCGtHw_.2YfDqmxpqyjiymu_z2uFhx61etkiIecBsztU8PtYCQY99RCkQGsJ4AYb6ekuahNQZTgDBQh7O8.HjtKQAhAPerGUmE3Spq._tGfD1r8eul5eTi3u.wpguTF9ZeAr8RdxXKkiw9xs4ZgBmcTnF Received: from [99.181.52.229] by web80012.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:46:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.43 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 References: X-Original-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 04:46:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Dr Andre Katz Subject: Re: [LML] Re: tridair fairchild fasteners X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-475859790-1243943173=:41818" --0-475859790-1243943173=:41818 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello jeff =0Aso far the cheapest I have seen will be 8 bucks for the stud = and 10 bucks for the fasteners 2-3 size=0Aso it will come to 18x76 1360 for= the cowling=0Abased on my experience on the cowling on my IV i think its a= wise investment =0Ai have no chaffing i did not reinforce the glass (I hav= e the old fashion glass cowling) and was afraid that the vibration will e= at up the glass and it has not happened after more than 400 hrs =0Aif inter= ested will call the shop and try to get a bulk price for both of us=0Alet m= e know=0Ai am going to use them =0Aandres =0A=0Aby the wat we have been del= ayed due to engine mount changes and associated baffling changes so my engi= ne QEC is being dismantled to replace the engine mount and I am not sure th= at the new changes in the prototype were sufficient. =0A=0A=0A=0A__________= ______________________=0AFrom: "vtailjeff@aol.com" =0ATo= : lml@lancaironline.net=0ASent: Monday, June 1, 2009 9:39:52 PM=0ASubject: = [LML] Re: tridair fairchild fasteners=0A=0AAndre,=0A=0AI have not looked fo= r how much these cost but in looking at Andy Cruce's airplane I believe we = need about 76 fasteners each for our Evolution.=0A=0AJeff Edwards=0A=0A=0A-= ----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Dr Andre Katz =0ATo: lm= l@lancaironline.net=0ASent: Sun, 31 May 2009 1:24 pm=0ASubject: [LML] Re: t= ridair fairchild fasteners=0A=0A=0Ayes i am still interested did you get a = cheaper rate?=0Alet me know everybody else deserted=0A=0A=0A=0A____________= ____________________=0A From: "vtailjeff@aol.com" =0ATo:= lml@lancaironline.net=0ASent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:42:35 PM=0ASubject:= [LML] Re: tridair fairchild fasteners=0A=0AAndres.=0A=0AAny interest in pl= acing an order?=0A=0AJeff=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Kev= in Stallard =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ASent: Mon, 27= Apr 2009 3:45 pm=0ASubject: [LML] Re: tridair fairchild fasteners=0A=0A=0A= Hi Bruce,=0A =0AI found this link. It is the PDF of the catalog containing= the fastners. I=E2=80=99m looking at page 19. Doesn=E2=80=99t show how t= hey work per se, but I think the cut away drawing help.=0A =0Ahttp://www.un= irexinc.com/catalogs/tridair-structural_panel_fasteners.pdf=0A =0AKevin=0A0= A =0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFrom:Lancair Mailing List [m= ailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Gray=0ASent: 2009-04-27 06:= 01=0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ASubject: [LML] Re: tridair fairchild faste= ners=0A =0ACan anyone point me to a website that shows me how these puppies= work?=0A =0ABruce=0AWWW.Glasair.org =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom:= Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dr Andre = Katz=0ASent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 9:23 AM=0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0AS= ubject: [LML] Re: tridair fairchild fasteners=0A =0Aemail bu131@swbell.net= =0Aoffice 2143695432=0A =0Aprices when ordering 100 units or more=0A =0A = =0A1820-2 9.00 per unit=0A1820-3 14.20 per unit=0Areceptacle=0A1810 16.00= per unit=0A =0A =0Athanks to brent regan for the tip best fasteners i have= ever seen but a bit expensive=0A =0Aandres=0A =0A=0A______________________= __________=0A =0AFrom:F. Barry Knotts =0ATo: l= ml@lancaironline.net=0ASent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:10:26 PM=0ASubject: = [LML] Re: tridair fairchild fasteners=0A=0AI'm interested. How much? How = do I get in contact with you, Andres?=0A=0ABarry K=0Anotts, LIV-P, TSIO-550= .=0A=0A=0ADr Andre Katz wrote: =0A =0Ai have gotten a quote for the fastene= rs and the price is more reasonable for a group of 100 units=0A =0Athe most= common sizes are 1820-2 and 1820-3 for the male parts and 1810 for the rec= eptacle=0A =0Aanyone interested let me know and i will order them=0A =0Aa t= ypical IV-P cowling requires about 30 of them around the firewall and at th= e bottom around the nose gear area. quick to remove and lasts a long time f= -16 hardware quality mine are still working after 4-5 years and never had t= o replace a receptacle and ocasionally the studs will bend. =0A =0Aandres= =0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A Wanna slim down for summer= ? Go to America Takes it Off to learn how. =0A=0A=0A_______________________= _________=0AWanna slim down for summer? Go to America Takes it Off to lear= n how. --0-475859790-1243943173=:41818 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello jeff=C2=A0
so far the cheapest I have seen will b= e 8 bucks for the stud and 10 bucks for the fasteners 2-3 size
so= it will come to 18x76 1360 for the cowling
based on my experienc= e on the cowling on my IV i think its a wise investment=C2=A0
i h= ave no chaffing i did not reinforce the glass (I have the old fashion glass= cowling) =C2=A0and was afraid =C2=A0that the vibration will eat up the gla= ss and it has not happened after more than 400 hrs=C2=A0
if inter= ested will call the shop and try to get a bulk price for both of us
let me know
i am going to use them=C2=A0
andres=C2= =A0

by the wat we have been delayed due to engine = mount changes and associated baffling changes so my engine QEC is being dis= mantled to replace the engine mount and I am not sure that the new changes in the prototype were = sufficient.=C2=A0

From: "vtailjeff@aol.co= m" <vtailjeff@aol.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent:= Monday, June 1, 2009 9:39:52 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: tridair fairchild fasteners

=0AAndre,
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=0AI have not looked for how much these cost but= in looking at Andy Cruce's airplane I believe we need about 76 fasteners e= ach for our Evolution.
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=0AJeff Edwards
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=0A-----O= riginal Message-----
=0AFrom: Dr Andre Katz <bu131@swbell.net>
=0A= To: lml@lancaironline.net
=0ASent: Sun, 31 May 2009 1:24 pm
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yes i am= still interested did you get a cheaper rate?
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=0ASent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:42:35 PM
=0ASubject: [LML] Re: tridair fairchild fast= eners
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=0AAndres.
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=0AAny interest in placing an o= rder?
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=0AFrom: Kevin= Stallard <Kevin@arilabs.net>
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=0ASent: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 3:45 pm
=0ASubject: [LML] Re: tridair fair= child fasteners
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Hi Bruce,
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I found this link.=C2=A0 It is the PDF of the catalog containing the= fastners.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m looking at page 19.=C2=A0 Doesn=E2=80=99t show= how they work per se, but I think the cut away drawing help.=
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From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:= lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf O= f Bruce Gray
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=0ASubject: [LML] Re: = tridair fairchild fasteners
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=0AFrom: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dr Andre Katz
=0ASent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 9:23 A= M
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=0ASubject: [LML] Re: tridair fairchild fast= eners
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thanks to brent regan for the tip best fastener= s i have ever seen but a bit expensive
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=0AS= ent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:10:26 PM
=0ASubject: [LML] Re: tridair fairchild fastener= s
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=0AI'm interested.=C2=A0 How much?=C2=A0 How do I= get in contact with you, Andres?
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=0ABarry K=0Anotts, LIV-P, TSIO= -550.
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