Posted for GT Phantom <gt_phantom@hotmail.com>:

        I think it comes down to the fact that forums didn't really exist when
LML was started (or at least, weren't common) and a natural tendency to leave
things alone if "they are working."

The advantages of forums are that it often makes it easier to find and follow
individual posts and doesn't require an automated outbound email system.  On
the down side is the fact that all of our readers here would have to be
'retrained" to use one since they are not accustomed to it.

In the mean time folks like me will use everything available!

:)

Bill

[In response to anyone else who may care.... I have been involved in online activities since long before the internet was even invented, much less became popular. I ran a BBS in the good-old days, and was a sysop on Compuserve before there were browsers, even before there were GUIs like Windows. I've helped start and manage a number of forums over the years and can say without reservation that there is an incredible amount of behind-the-scenes work that is required to make forum-based discussion boards operate to the full benefit of their memberships. Forums that attempt to operate without a staff of careful and dedicated moderators tend to become bloated with off-topic posts, are typically rife with threads unrelated to their specific areas, and, over time, only become useful to people who are willing to visit the site on a daily basis and pore through everything that was posted JIC something got misplaced. The logic of the LML has always been that dealing with email on a daily basis is something that we all do (well, most of us, anyway) and having LML content simply show up means you don't have to think about it to get it, much less actively pursue it. While it may be a bit disorganized at times, today's email clients allow you to automatically send specific content to its own mailbox (that's why all LML posts have that little [LML] in the subject line.... plug those five characters into a message rule and the client does the rest), and once sequestered you can further organize it to your heart's content. On a selfish note, I can generally moderate a day's LML traffiic in a matter of minutes, even when there are posts that require photos to be shrunken, updates to email addresses to be processed, or other things that are LML related that require attention. In 12+ years there have only been 3 or 4 days that the LML didn't see any traffic, and generally people get answers to their questions in a matter of minutes to hours.... seems like a system that works pretty well. Yes, it has its shortcomings, but they are fairly minor when compared to the overall effectiveness of the medium. I could go on and on, but this is only peripherally related to the purpose of the LML so I'm going to sign off for now. Thanks to all of you who have hung in there over the years and made this one of the best mailing lists out there. No reply is necessary. Let's stick with Lancair and aviation-based topics. Seeya!! <M>    ]

Tony Moradian wrote:          I have always wondered why this site hasn't
been upgraded.  It is obviously a bunch of great folks, great knowledge, but
not a very user friendly forum structure???
      From: Bryan Wullner <vonjet@gmail.com>
   To: lml@lancaironline.net
   Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:15:14 PM
   Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy Builders Forum

   Not sure if the Legacy builder forum went away or moved.  But it wouldn't
surprise me if it went away.  Lancair has sold some 2000 kits and there seems
to be a handful of maybe 200 that actually participate in any online
community. Whats really strange is that, given the presence that Lancair has
or had all these years, the lack of growth and participation in our mail lists
and forums suggest we don't have many followers either.    It's my opinion in
today's world the popularity of your kit or company can be directly related to
your web presence and Lancair has a very weak and limited web presence.
    I've been building my Lancair for a long time and after hanging out on the
Vansairforce site I got all excited about us Lancair builders and owners
having our own forum site. So I spent a grip of my own money to have
lancairforce.com built and keep it hosted and its use is pretty low as well.
Anyway, if highref is gone, there is another forum for lancairs out there
and there is a Legacy section. And if you want or need different topics let me
know.  www.lancairforce.com       Bryan

     On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Bill Bradburry
<bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:
   Did the Legacy Builders Forum below go away??

      http://www.highrf.com/forums/


Bill



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