X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:53:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp.perigee.net ([166.82.201.14] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with ESMTPS id 3547360 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:38:48 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=166.82.201.14; envelope-from=jschroeder@perigee.net Received: from john-study-2.perigee.net (dsl-208-26-41-119.perigee.net [208.26.41.119]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.perigee.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n2EGc5Vk002792 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:38:06 -0400 X-Original-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:37:59 -0400 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LOP vs ROP Climb: Time and Fuel Burn (LIVP) From: "John Schroeder" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Win32) Art - They teach, in the APS Seminar, Wide Open Throttle (WOT) all the time and vary the mixture in the LOP range and rpm for speed. They are having a live seminar in early May in Ada, OK if anyone is interested. I highly recommend it. IMHO, it is the most cost-effective insurance one can have with respect to the care and running of your engine. You can also take it on line. I have not done that one. George, Walter and John - all have taken IO & TSIO 550's to factory recommended overhaul times and sometimes beyond; with little or no cylinder problems. I may not be completely accurate on this last statement, but close. Another point is that the turbo temperature is a key indicator for setting and running LOP. I did not have a turbo, so I did not pay close attention to this part of the seminar. My apologies to Walter, George and John if I have mis-stated something here. Just trying to get folks to your seminar. :-)) John Schroeder On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:32:47 -0400, Art Bertolina wrote: > Re: [LML] LOP vs ROP Climb: Time and Fuel Burn (LIVP)would like to hear > what George or Walter could add to > this conversation. It was my understanding that higher RPM > is better for the engine, as long as the prop is not driving > engine > Art > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colyn Case at earthlink > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: [LML] Re: LOP vs ROP Climb: Time and Fuel Burn (LIVP) > > > Chuck said, > So, if you are going to reduce power, between MP or RPM, it is better > to reduce MP since higher RPM keeps PP lower, at least that was their > general conclusion, supported by engine shop experience. > > I agree at high power settings for the reasons cited, but once you > get down to cruise power settings, if you are going to reduce power > further, reducing rpm removes some friction component while reducing mp > does not. therefore you should get better mileage by lowering rpm.