X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:32:30 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-gx0-f224.google.com ([209.85.217.224] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3492812 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:42:52 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.217.224; envelope-from=bobatbmackey@gmail.com Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so1797297gxk.19 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:42:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aVu9qJCrbUZktpsPdRLxH4gzT+TWMVLnplhsnU8IvE3GbgXwASyg+ajFlIDNO0tKDy aVBW36Pd1l94B4wKhSFAO30l9WwuYxBsO35aWOqga6dQ+weCNjAY5TRmg038D9J0GU7u 1QCIsPOLSAwU7FqvQBaXOlijApAnU3Vw3N+P8= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: bobatbmackey@gmail.com Received: by 10.100.141.10 with SMTP id o10mr638210and.41.1234590136397; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:42:16 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:42:16 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 804143079745f7cb X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: RE: [LML] Legacy damaged From: bob mackey X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Of the dozens of messages regarding the flight properties of a Legacy with unlocked canopy, there are only two pilot reports. Assume for a moment that the two pilots who were actually there are accurately reporting their experiences. Further assume that all the armchair quarterbacks were not there and did not experience the flight characteristics of a Legacy with open canopy. One pilot says the airplane was stable, but windy and noisy. Another pilot said his aircraft had significant pitch oscillations. What would make one aircraft pitch stable and another very similar aircraft statically pitch stable, but dynamically unstable? The simplest explanation would be a CG difference, though it could also be a different flap position, gross weight, or maybe prop size and pitch. If the aircraft is flying near its aft CG limit, and the open canopy shifts fuselage lift forwards, then a dynamically instability (oscillation) might result. At higher angle of attack, the effect of fuselage shape might be more pronounced, leading to the observation that the oscillation was worse at lower speeds. Two (or more?) other pilots are believed to have had open canopies and not survived. I'm inclined to believe that the reports of oscillations are accurate and could have been worse. BTW, an unlatched parallelogram canopy in a 235 opens about 2-3 inches and makes lots of noise as soon as the prop blast hits it. In flight, one improperly seated latch makes a loud bang when it lets go, but can be resealed in flight. Two or more latches open would be annoying at the least. -bob mackey