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From: Earl Schroeder <earleschroeder@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: GEESE
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While not trying to throw stones.. this statement is very troubling to me:

This aircraft was on an IFR flight plan meaning looking out the=A0=20
> window was not required by the pilots since the controllers on the=A0=20
> ground were responsible for separating aircraft.
---------end quote-------------------

Those supposed flight instructors that left this impression (above) can rig=
htfully be blamed for too many collisions in the past.=A0 I worry about tho=
se who continue to fly while I'm trying to share the airspace=A0 while they=
 have their heads buried in the cockpit.=A0 I see in my flying community th=
ose who are guilty of no-heads-up and strive to point out the need to be aw=
are of their surroundings.=A0 I might be out there so please look OUT for m=
e!=A0 Thanks. Earl

I agree with Lorn's summation that follows.

--- On Sun, 1/18/09, Lorn H Olsen <lorn@dynacomm.us> wrote:



The controller is not responsible for separating IFR aircraft from VFR =20
aircraft, only other IFR aircraft. It is still the IFR pilots =20
responsibility to avoid hitting anything that he can possibly see =20
including VFR aircraft, birds and anything else that is up in the air.


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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">While not trying to throw stones.. this statement is very troubling to me:<br><br>This aircraft was on an <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1232299986_2">IFR flight plan</span> meaning looking out the&nbsp; <br>&gt; window was not required by the pilots since the controllers on the&nbsp; <br>&gt; ground were responsible for separating aircraft.<br>---------end quote-------------------<br><br>Those supposed flight instructors that left this impression (above) can rightfully be blamed for too many collisions in the past.&nbsp; I worry about those who continue to fly while I'm trying to share the airspace&nbsp; while they have their heads buried in the cockpit.&nbsp; I see in my flying community those who are guilty of no-heads-up and strive to point out the need to be aware of their surroundings.&nbsp; I might be out there so please look OUT for me!&nbsp; Thanks.
 Earl<br><br>I agree with Lorn's summation that follows.<br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 1/18/09, Lorn H Olsen <i>&lt;lorn@dynacomm.us&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br><pre><br><br>The controller is not responsible for separating IFR aircraft from VFR  <br>aircraft, only other IFR aircraft. It is still the IFR pilots  <br>responsibility to avoid hitting anything that he can possibly see  <br>including VFR aircraft, birds and anything else that is up in the air.<br><br></pre></blockquote></td></tr></table>
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