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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:59:48 -0500
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Subject: Re: GEESE
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Two points:

1)? The heroism aspect comes in by deciding to ditch in the water, guaranteeing a poor outcome for your aircraft but also guaranteeing a good outcome for innocent bystanders on the ground.? It sounds to me?like a landing at an airport or an open field was marginally possible, but highly unlikely, with the chances much higher?of taking out a lot of people on the ground.? The decision to not put others in jeopardy by worsening your own chances is where the selflessness (heroism?) comes in.? As for airmanship, I would hope that any airline pilot could touch down on flat water without cartwheeling the airplane.? As for the safe evacuation, well, the cabin crew doing a good job, plus a lot of luck in giving them the time to do so, and the airplane staying afloat long enough that people didn't have to swim in 40 F water,?is what saved the day.

2)? As?for Dan's comments about "a few minutes either way", well, that's certainly true, but wouldn't there have been a different airliner there at that time?? So the airplanes before and after dodged the geese?by being a few minutes away.

It's surprising, actually, that this doesn't happen more often.

- Rob Wolf
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Two points:<br>
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1)&nbsp; The heroism aspect comes in by deciding to ditch in the water, guaranteeing a poor outcome for your aircraft but also guaranteeing a good outcome for innocent bystanders on the ground.&nbsp; It sounds to me&nbsp;like a landing at an airport or an open field was marginally possible, but highly unlikely, with the chances much higher&nbsp;of taking out a lot of people on the ground.&nbsp; The decision to not put others in jeopardy by worsening your own chances is where the selflessness (heroism?) comes in.&nbsp; As for airmanship, I would hope that any airline pilot could touch down on flat water without cartwheeling the airplane.&nbsp; As for the safe evacuation, well, the cabin crew doing a good job, plus a lot of luck in giving them the time to do so, and the airplane staying afloat long enough that people didn't have to swim in 40 F water,&nbsp;is what saved the day.<br>
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2)&nbsp; As&nbsp;for Dan's comments about "a few minutes either way", well, that's certainly true, but wouldn't there have been a different airliner there at that time?&nbsp; So the airplanes before and after dodged the geese&nbsp;by being a few minutes away.<br>
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It's surprising, actually, that this doesn't happen more often.<br>
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- Rob Wolf<br>
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