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Hello Matt,
In my experience, geese fly where and when they
choose. I flew IFR through Pennsylvania amid layers of clouds at
6,000'. ATC called out traffic. It was an eschelon of geese above
me. I flew VFR over Harford, Ct. at 2,000'. A Canada goose was
flying from left to right a few hundred feet above me. Just as it passed
the fuselage above it folded its wings and dove directly into my right engine
(Cessna 320). It damaged the spinner, propeller, nose bowl, lower nacelle,
engine cross over tube and deposited lots of itself in the engine nacelle.
I was watching it the whole time. I couldn't maneuver the plane fast
enough to avoid it. How could an airliner? From that experience, I
now aim at any goose or eschelon of geese on an converging path, expecting them
to dive out of the way as I get closer.
Jabe Luttrell
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:41
AM
Subject: [LML] GEESE
Opinion by Matt
Reeves:
FLOCKS OF GEESE FLY SLOW and usually
in a "V" shape, AND ARE EASY TO SEE ON A BLUE SKY DAY - AND ARE sometimes
DETECTABLE ON RADAR both on airplanes and on the ground. Pilots
WERE heros once plane hit the flock, but COULD have the collision with geese
been avoided and the answer may be YES.
It is
possible that NEITHER pilot was looking straight out the window because the
airplane was on an instrument flight plan =
meaning, controllers on the ground were responsible for aircraft
separation.
ALSO, this aircraft floated for enough time to
save the passengers and did not break apart mainly because of pilot skill
bringing it down to a shallow angle of impact at the slowest possible airspeed
above stall speed AND it is built out of CARBON FIBER which is significantly
LIGHTER and stronger than aluminum and more flexible AND more seamless
preventing instant flooding, thus saving lives (sorry RV guys).
Baggage and landing gear compartments sealed with air also helped
buoyancy. PILOTS WERE HEROS in saving lives, but the accident MAY have
been avoidable simply by looking out
the window. Future geese avoidance may include horns
on aircraft, much like deer horns on cars, radar, and simply looking out the
window on the departure and arrival checklists.
This
aircraft was on an IFR
flight plan meaning looking out the window was not required by
the pilots since the controllers on the ground were responsible for separating
aircraft. However, at low altitude, at geese flight levels, looking out
the window should be mandatory. Most geese do not fly in
clouds.
All points I have not seen reported.
What's next?
Billions in research and in the end, no changes except a Goose Therapist Lady
will make off with millions and will simply tell us the geese are depressed
that we are taking over their skies. And in the end? I will marry
her.
Matt
marv@lancair.net wrote:
Posted
for David Standish <carbonflier@bresnan.net>:
That being
said I still need a couple more pilots to get Pete to come out to
Montana this summer. Montana is a great place to
fly. Lots of room for
training. Billings is a
great small city. Yellowstone Park is nearby. And a
local FBO has agreed to discount fuel. Please contact me if
you are
interested.
David
Standish
flypetezacc@aol.com
wrote:
> **
>
> The root problem is getting the message
out to those that think they
> do not need training. 43%
of the accidents are people with less than
> 100 hours in
type. But, there is a very large number of accidents
>
from people with 5000-20000 hours. The ease of receiving training
has
> never been easier I implore those that do not need training to
get it
> anyway!
>
> Grassroots effort. Go down the
hangar row and let the lancair pilot
> know why its important to get
training from ANY qualified
> instructor. help make 2009 the safest
year for Lancair pilots.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Peter
Zaccagnino
> HP-AT.com, Inc
> 1046 River Ave
> Flemington,
NJ 08822
> 908 391 2001
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