X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:45:18 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.123] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTP id 3402263 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:19:54 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=71.74.56.123; envelope-from=kkellner1@new.rr.com Received: from D4SSJS91 ([65.27.68.13]) by hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20081229031917.MPF2682.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@D4SSJS91> for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:19:17 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: From: "Ken" X-Original-To: References: Subject: Re: Insurance X-Original-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:19:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0101_01C96931.F0671050" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0101_01C96931.F0671050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: n427jb@bellsouth.net [mailto:n427jb@bellsouth.net]=20 I did hear that Avemco was starting to insure Lancair aircraft. I would a= sk that all report here on the LML our experiences with other insurance com= panies. Insurance experience: After initial training with Pete Z in December 2007, AIG insured my IV-P fo= r the year 2008. They required annual recurrent training. When it came ti= me to renew / reapply for 2009 I tried to get them to accept Jeff as the tr= ainer, but they would only accept HPAT. And, after 80 hours of IV-P time m= ore than I had the previous year and after a second round of training, my r= ates would increase 45% and my deductible would go from $100 (one hundred) = to $30,000 (thirty-thousand). Jenney Estes at Nation Air Aviation Insurance (877-475-5860) found coverage= for me with Aerospace Insurance Managers. They accepted Jeff to do the re= current training. The deductible was $15,000 instead of $30,000 and the ra= te was 33% LESS than the rate AIG quoted for 2009. Some time during this process AIG changed their mind about not approving Je= ff for my recurrent training and said they would approve him for this year = only. I went with Aerospace Insurance. Jenney Estes at Nation Air is great to wo= rk with. =20 Training experience: Initial training with Pete was great. He took me from zero time to ten hou= rs and I felt comfortable flying the airplane and very very respectful of w= hat could go wrong. Dealing with HPAT scheduling, availability, cancellati= ons due to lack of trainers, returning phone calls, and clarity of expenses= was extremely poor. I reviewed this with Pete at that time in Dec 2007. H= e said that although it was something he did not want to hear he was glad t= o hear it so he could take steps to fix it.=20 Recurrent training with Jeff was outstanding. Jeff knows the airplane and = he know how to teach. The training syllabus and handout material was very = good. Dealing with Jeff in all of the "other" aspects was a pleasure. Ken Kellner IV-P 14LK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lancair=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: RE: Insurance From: n427jb@bellsouth.net [mailto:n427jb@bellsouth.net]=20 I did hear that Avemco was starting to insure Lancair aircraft. I would= ask that all report here on the LML our experiences with other insurance c= ompanies. =20 Avemco quoted me $4200 to insure my GlaStar, while for the exact same cov= erage AIG quoted $2200. I switched companies (a no-brainer) and got into a= legal battle with Avemco over my cancellation. I had the Ohio Attorney Ge= neral's office threaten Avemco with a lawsuit and they finally backed off. = Deal with those buggers at your own peril. =20 Robert M. Simon ES-P N301ES ------=_NextPart_000_0101_01C96931.F0671050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0101_01C96931.F0671050--