X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:42:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTP id 3396488 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:27:47 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.53; envelope-from=n427jb@bellsouth.net Received: from fwebmail02.isp.att.net ([204.127.218.102]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20081225142710H0300dokfve>; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:27:10 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.127.218.102] Received: from [98.163.223.202] by fwebmail02.isp.att.net; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:27:10 +0000 From: n427jb@bellsouth.net X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Insurance X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:27:10 +0000 X-Original-Message-Id: <122520081427.23367.4953983E000085CA00005B4722216125569B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0D06C9CDCB02@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2008) X-Authenticated-Sender: bjQyN2piQGJlbGxzb3V0aC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23367_1230215230_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23367_1230215230_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There were several issues presented today that require my additional commen= ts on the insurance/training issue. AIG cannot possibly demand that each a= nd every one of those aircraft inspected by Lancair need to be reinspected.= Now, keep in mind that in my last post I stated that if the aircraft has = been sold then a re-inspection would be required. Further, while I greatly= respect Jeff Edwards' enthusiasm for this subject, I do disagree with cert= ain of his assessments. Tim Wilson's day job has become essentially one to= tally devoted to scheduling inspections. When and if Lancair inspections b= ecome too numerous for Tim to handle, you can be assured Lancair will expan= d the number of inspectors to handle the demand. While the cost for such a= n inspection can be "significant," what is the value to the owner of findin= g a potentially devastating flaw and thereby preventing property damage and= personal injury? Now on to the issue of instruction. No doubt, Jeff is a knowledgable sourc= e who has cited statistics which should assist the insurance industry and t= he FAA in determining what is the root cause of accidents. What neither Je= ff nor Pete can do is look into the mind of the pilot at any time much less= at a time immediately prior to or during any flight. They cannot be there= when the pilot decides that he or she will disregard the requirements of P= art 91 regarding a current BFR, instrument approach currency, night or day = landing requirements, or even a current medical. The pilot is the problem = and the pilot needs to be trained and reminded of the hazards of flight. T= hat pilot needs to know that it is the initial go-no go decision that is th= e most important decision he can make for the entire flight. It is through= repetative training that this issue is driven home! Now, what Jeff and Pe= te must do is find a way to effectively communicate. This issue is bigger = than the both of them. In their communications, they must come up with a c= ommon syllabus and a common check list with which to teach and from which t= o report on those items taught during the training. This common check list= , when completed and delivered to Lancair, will be the basis for the issuan= ce of the insurance inspection form. I invite Jeff to coordinate his effo= rts with Pete before setting a date for a meeting of any kind wherein he wi= shes Pete to participate. Finally, please do not assume that Lancair is working with AIG because it i= s insured with AIG. That is not the case. I have spoken with Starr Insura= nce, now managed by Jim Anderson, who refuses to insure Lancairs due to its= loss history. I have not sought out other insurance companies but, as I r= eported in my last post, I did hear that Avemco was starting to insure Lanc= air aircraft. I would ask that all report here on the LML our experiences = with other insurance companies. You want insurance at reasonable rates? S= tart training now and fly like you have been trained.=20=20 This is not a personality contest...its not "I like Pete" or "I like Jeff."= Its all about getting a common training syllabus and a common check list = which Lancair can endorse and use as a standard from which to issue an insu= rance certificate.=20=20 Joe --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23367_1230215230_0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23367_1230215230_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23367_1230215230_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There were several issues presented today that require my additional c= omments on the insurance/training issue.  AIG cannot possibly demand t= hat each and every one of those aircraft inspected by Lancair need to be re= inspected.  Now, keep in mind that in my last post I stated that if th= e aircraft has been sold then a re-inspection would be required.  Furt= her, while I greatly respect Jeff Edwards' enthusiasm for this subject, I d= o disagree with certain of his assessments.  Tim Wilson's day job has = become essentially one totally devoted to scheduling inspections.  Whe= n and if Lancair inspections become too numerous for Tim to handle, you can= be assured Lancair will expand the number of inspectors to handle the= demand.  While the cost for such an inspection can be "significant," = what is the value to the owner of finding a potentially devastating flaw an= d thereby preventing property damage and personal injury?
 
Now on to the issue of instruction.  No doubt, Jeff is a knowledg= able source who has cited statistics which should assist the insurance indu= stry and the FAA in determining what is the root cause of accidents.  = What neither Jeff nor Pete can do is look into the mind of the pilot at any= time much less at a time immediately prior to or during any flight.  = They cannot be there when the pilot decides that he or she will disregard t= he requirements of Part 91 regarding a current BFR, instrument approach cur= rency, night or day landing requirements, or even a current medical.  = The pilot is the problem and the pilot needs to be trained and reminded of = the hazards of flight.  That pilot needs to know that it is the initia= l go-no go decision that is the most important decision he can make for the= entire flight.  It is through repetative training that this issue is = driven home!  Now, what Jeff and Pete must do is find a way to effecti= vely communicate.  This issue is bigger than the both of them.  I= n their communications, they must come up with a common syllabus and a comm= on check list with which to teach and from which to report on those it= ems taught during the training.  This common check list, when complete= d and delivered to Lancair, will be the basis for the issuance of  the= insurance inspection form.  I invite Jeff to coordinate his efforts w= ith Pete before setting a date for a meeting of any kind wherein he wishes = Pete to participate.
 
Finally, please do not assume that Lancair is working with A= IG because it is insured with AIG.  That is not the case.  I have= spoken with Starr Insurance, now managed by Jim Anderson, who refuses to i= nsure Lancairs due to its loss history.  I have not sought out other i= nsurance companies but, as I reported in my last post, I did hear that Avem= co was starting to insure Lancair aircraft.  I would ask that all repo= rt here on the LML our experiences with other insurance companies.  Yo= u want insurance at reasonable rates?  Start training now and fly like= you have been trained. 
 
This is not a personality contest...its not "I like Pete" or "I like J= eff."  Its all about getting a common training syllabus and a common c= heck list which Lancair can endorse and use as a standard from which to iss= ue an insurance certificate. 
 
Joe
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