X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:23:22 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web57208.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.111.224] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with SMTP id 3395110 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:57:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 71311 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Dec 2008 13:57:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=d9aWfYCRHlGibY54kKTejZ9Xgfmob4sx5gh+gVOcSw0+3gtJuvZMMLMV8rowpEPfCHDjI7RNl16+3jfHjL2nUZ78MFrKxTbUimrYQbSX9nJ1T6dTMu0YrkWinyfp1reHo3/iOG/e+vLnNi8OPOiZXVW0iyOhTssGeMowf+aN5Ec=; X-YMail-OSG: D.U3VRoVM1kIgUIjEUxnxOakD01SiU2zgjwiHKYIaFqo0ukkcMmvjZJDZgEaHuPiwzIUys40nb2rJRCSgWQMa0Hws24EtWVX3PSGfCURS9feyE_mH0adPtvJHKGyv2IGtWdvWTbqStxBk6n03Ozffx6FYk8k8w_EicYtLso3N_YutSsaQir9yPCxFn81..eOmeOpukA- Received: from [67.66.143.175] by web57208.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:57:10 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 X-Original-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:57:10 -0800 (PST) From: m miriani Reply-To: lancair33@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Insurance X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-65870934-1230127030=:24544" X-Original-Message-ID: <175978.24544.qm@web57208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-65870934-1230127030=:24544 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe the other way around. HPAT=A0needs to=A0coordinate with Jeff on the= =A0=A0program he has initiated.=A0 The insurance industry is taking note of= LOBO adn this can only benefit all of us. I dont see things improving with= the direction we have been heading in the past. Thanks Jeff=20 =A0 Matt Miriani=A0 IVP=A0=A0 (working with AIG now to get insurance for initia= l fly off in Jan) --- On Tue, 12/23/08, Craig Gainza wrote: From: Craig Gainza Subject: [LML] Re: Insurance To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 7:41 PM #yiv1606553222 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1606553222 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Jeff, I do appreciate your efforts with LOBO, but I do have a comment.=A0=20 It seems that the early focus of LOBO has been on Instructor standardizatio= n, developing a teaching syllabus, and coordination with the FAA and the in= surance industry.=A0 That program has=A0 been in place by Pete Z. and HPAT = for some time.=A0 Wouldn't it be best to coordinate efforts with HPAT and f= ocus on the real problem-the apparent indifference to training many (over)c= onfident pilots have... Just a thought. Craig Gainza =A0=20 520hrs IV-P To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:30:53 -0500 From: vtailjeff@aol.com Subject: [LML] Re: Insurance Art & LML, You read our mind. LOBO is working on these issues. Last weekend LOBO hoste= d a LOBO Lancair Instructor Pilot Standardization (LOBO LIPS) seminar in St= . Louis. Great weekend with some very experienced instructors in Lancairs. = We have develeped a very good Lancair flight and ground training program af= ter reviewing all Lancair accident stats. LOBO has been talking to the FAA = and the insurance industry in order to reverse our negative safety trend an= d to help us get where we need to be viz. insurance. Our training program i= s being forwarded to the FAA for review for FITS acceptance.=A0We will soon= begin instructor standardization and evaluation.=A0LOBO will be hosting=A0= maintenance seminars this spring in the Washington DC area and in St. Louis= .=A0I promised you all that we would work hard on these issues and it is ha= ppening. For now, we need more LOBO members! There definitely is strength i= n numbers here. If you are not a member, join. If you already are a member please recruit a new member. fmi see www.lancairowners.com Best Holiday Regards, Jeff Edwards President, LOBO =A0 Listen to 350+ music, sports, & news radio stations =96 including songs for= the holidays =96 FREE while you browse. Start Listening Now! =0A=0A=0A = --0-65870934-1230127030=:24544 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Maybe the other way around. HPAT ne= eds to coordinate with Jeff on the  program he has initiated= .  The insurance industry is taking note of LOBO adn this can only ben= efit all of us. I dont see things improving with the direction we have been= heading in the past. Thanks Jeff
 
Matt Miriani  IVP   (working with AIG now to get insura= nce for initial fly off in Jan)

--- On Tue, 12/23/08, Craig Gainz= a <cgainza@msn.com> wrote:
From: Craig Gainza <cgainza@msn.com>
Subject= : [LML] Re: Insurance
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Tuesday, Decemb= er 23, 2008, 7:41 PM

Jeff,

I do appreciate your efforts with LOBO, but I do have a commen= t. 

It seems that the early focus of LOBO has been on Instruct= or standardization, developing a teaching syllabus, and coordination with t= he FAA and the insurance industry.  That program has  been in pla= ce by Pete Z. and HPAT for some time.  Wouldn't it be best to coordina= te efforts with HPAT and focus on the real problem-the apparent indi= fference to training many (over)confident pilots have...

Just a thou= ght.

Craig Gainza  
520hrs IV-P

To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:30:53 -0500
From:= vtailjeff@aol.com
Subject: [LML] Re: Insurance

Art & LML,
You read our mind. LOBO is working on these issues. Last weekend LOBO = hosted a LOBO Lancair Instructor Pilot Standardization (LOBO LIPS) seminar = in St. Louis. Great weekend with some very experienced instructors in Lanca= irs. We have develeped a very good Lancair flight and ground training progr= am after reviewing all Lancair accident stats. LOBO has been talking to the= FAA and the insurance industry in order to reverse our negative safety tre= nd and to help us get where we need to be viz. insurance. Our training prog= ram is being forwarded to the FAA for review for FITS acceptance. We w= ill soon begin instructor standardization and evaluation. LOBO will be= hosting maintenance seminars this spring in the Washington DC area an= d in St. Louis. I promised you all that we would work hard on these issues and it is happening. For now, we need more LOBO members! Ther= e definitely is strength in numbers here. If you are not a member, join. If= you already are a member please recruit a new member. fmi see www.lancairown= ers.com

Best Holiday Regards,

Jeff Edwards
President, = LOBO


 
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