X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:41:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.24] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTP id 3392371 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:54:44 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.24; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uGbZ1a00M1HpZEsA2Ju9Ah; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:54:09 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.198] ([98.247.31.160]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uJu71a0093THFyS8aJu7BA; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:54:08 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.15.0.081119 X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:54:07 -0800 Subject: Landing a IV on Packed Snow From: John Hafen X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Landing a IV on Packed Snow Thread-Index: AclkZqqxC3IiRO0/EEKLIVg1jbT+fA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3312788048_207405" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3312788048_207405 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Having done lots of packed snow landings in my 210, I decided to give it a try in the IV. With no nose gear steering and relying totally on differential braking, I didn=B9t actually make it too far from the hangar before aborting my ill thought out mission. (have you seen the weather in Seattle this weekend?!?) I wouldn=B9t recommend anyone land a IV on packed snow. In fact, I wouldn=B9t recommend even taxiing, much less taking off and landing. John Hafen 413AJ On 12/22/08 8:56 AM, "vtailjeff@aol.com" wrote: > On thin snow cover (less than an inch) with a cross wind lost directional > control and nearly departed runway before going around. Have handled this > before in Bonanza and C182 but they have nosewheel steering and lower lan= ding > speeds.=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: vtailjeff@aol.com > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Sent: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:30 am > Subject: [LML] Re: snow >=20 > yep, and its not good. I avoid snow on the runway due to high tire pressu= re > and no nose wheel steering. Others my have different opinions. >=20 > Jeff >> Anybody have experience in IVs, landing/taking off from runways with com= pact >> snow and ice? >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Tomas Holbrook > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Sent: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 4:47 pm > Subject: [LML] snow >=20 >=20 > Anybody have experience in IVs, landing/taking off from runways with comp= act > snow and ice? >=20 > Tomas >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.ht= ml > =3D0 A >=20 >=20 > Listen to 350+ music, sports, & news radio stations =AD including songs for= the > holidays =AD FREE while you browse. Start Listening Now > = ! >=20 > Listen to 350+ music, sports, & news radio stations =96 including songs for= the > holidays =96 FREE while you browse. Start Listening Now > = ! >=20 --B_3312788048_207405 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Landing a IV on Packed Snow Having done lots of packed snow landings in my 210, I decided to give it a= try in the IV.  With no nose gear steering and relying totally on diff= erential braking, I didn’t actually make it too far from the hangar be= fore aborting my ill thought out mission.  (have you seen the weather i= n Seattle this weekend?!?)

I wouldn’t recommend anyone land a IV on packed snow.  In fact, = I wouldn’t recommend even taxiing, much less taking off and landing.
John Hafen 413AJ


On 12/22/08 8:56 AM, "vtailjeff@aol.com" <vtailjeff@aol.com> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>On thin snow cover (less than an inch) with a cr= oss wind lost directional control and nearly departed runway before going ar= ound. Have handled this before in Bonanza and C182 but they have nosewheel s= teering and lower landing speeds.


-----Original Message-----
From: vtailjeff@aol.com
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:30 am
Subject: [LML] Re: snow

yep, and its not good. I avoid snow on the runway due to high tire pressure= and no nose wheel steering. Others my have different opinions.

Jeff
Anybody have experience in IVs, landi= ng/taking off from runways with compact
snow and ice?



-----Original Message-----
From: Tomas Holbrook <tomasdds@yahoo.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 4:47 pm
Subject: [LML] snow


Anybody have experience in IVs, landing/taking off from runways with compac= t
snow and ice?

Tomas


      

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