X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:09:43 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman@cablespeed.com> Received: from mxo4.broadbandsupport.net ([209.55.3.84] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.8) with ESMTP id 3189254 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:19:01 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.55.3.84; envelope-from=2thman@cablespeed.com X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman@cablespeed.com> Received: from [66.235.44.170] ([66.235.44.170:64584] helo=Home) by mxo4.broadbandsupport.net (ecelerity 2.1.1.23 r(18304)) with ESMTP id 4B/3F-26299-1804ED84 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:17:37 -0400 From: "John Barrett" <2thman@cablespeed.com> X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: SkyCatcher flat spins and crashes X-Original-Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:17:36 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <01ab01c920ab$cae12920$60a37b60$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AckgiC46Vle4pohmQcSjVXYtnPI/rQAIpyhA Content-Language: en-us John Herminghaus writes: "Which one?" In response to Colyn Case who wrote: "you should read Rich Stowell's book. It includes a lot of information about certification testing of production aircraft. did you know that a c172 with people in the back seat can have unrecoverable spin characteristics?" Would it be fair to answer: "I don't know - if you've seen one C172, you've seen them all"? :) In reality I had a friend down the street in Houston as a kid a couple years younger than me. He was a basketball wringer in high school and destined for college greatness. He also liked to fly and went out with an older buddy regularly. The last time was when they loaded four guys in the plane and got it into a spin. They all died. This was in the mid 60's. True story