X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:26:08 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.7) with ESMTP id 3112415 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:34:11 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id q.cbf.212f9e44 (34923) for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:34:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA038-886b48bea05e1a5; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:34:06 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-DG04 (webmail-dg04.sim.aol.com [205.188.171.68]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA032-5bbb48bea053140; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:33:55 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] X-Original-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:33:55 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 75.58.186.34 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CADBE93AAB7FC9_A88_4A9_WEBMAIL-DG04.sim.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38575-STANDARD Received: from 75.58.186.34 by WEBMAIL-DG04.sim.aol.com (205.188.171.68) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:33:55 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CADBE93AA1F661-A88-257@WEBMAIL-DG04.sim.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO ----------MB_8CADBE93AAB7FC9_A88_4A9_WEBMAIL-DG04.sim.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Jon, You are such a bull shit artist! Your video was shot at the Sussex, NJ airpo= rt in spite of your video's mispelling the name of the airport as "Sussux".=20= There is no FAA tower located there so there can be no tower clearance. Chec= k www.airnav.com. You must have been hearing voices when you heard the tower= clearance you claim you received. Hint, 122.7 is not "tower". As to the hou= ses you claim are not there, you must be blind as well. Watch your video--th= e houses you flew over are the small rectanulgar structures. You can see the= m on google earth as well. As to all the "open farmland"-- that would be cor= rect if it were not for the town of Sussex and its subdivisions located less= than a half mile from=C2=A0the runway.=20 No flame intended-- just facts. ;) Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Jon Socolof To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:11 pm Subject: [LML]=20 Jeff,=20 =C2=A0 I do apologize for the tone of my original post; it was not my intention to=20= flame. The video was taken at an airport in the middle of no-where, surround= ed by open farm lands. Our activities were coordinated with the airport mana= ger, tower personnel and local parachute jump school prior to the flight. I= =E2=80=99m sorry you don=E2=80=99t really understand the rules that apply an= d cited the wrong FAR in the situation in the video. =E2=80=9CTouch and Go S= top and Go, Low Approach (Practice Low Approach)=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cclear= ed for the option=E2=80=9D are absolutely legal and as in this case authorized. See Section 4-8-12. BTW there was no flying= over any houses. I=E2=80=99m sure as a Designated Examiner you use these au= thorized approaches all the time for training purposes. =C2=A0 Jon ----------MB_8CADBE93AAB7FC9_A88_4A9_WEBMAIL-DG04.sim.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Jon,

You are such a bull shit artist! Your video was shot at the Sussex, NJ airpo= rt in spite of your video's mispelling the name of the airport as "Sussux".=20= There is no FAA tower located there so there can be no tower clearance. Chec= k www.airnav.com. You must have been h= earing voices when you heard the tower clearance you claim you received. Hin= t, 122.7 is not "tower". As to the houses you claim are not there, you must=20= be blind as well. Watch your video--the houses you flew over are the small r= ectanulgar structures. You can see them on google earth as well. As to all t= he "open farmland"-- that would be correct if it were not for the town of Su= ssex and its subdivisions located less than a half mile from the runway= .

No flame intended-- just facts. ;)

Jeff



-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Socolof <jsocolof@ershire.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:11 pm
Subject: [LML]

Jeff,
 
I do apologize for the tone of my original post;=20= it was not my intention to flame. The video was taken at an airport in the m= iddle of no-where, surrounded by open farm lands. Our activities were coordi= nated with the airport manager, tower personnel and local parachute jump sch= ool prior to the flight. I=E2=80=99m sorry you don=E2=80=99t really understa= nd the rules that apply and cited the wrong FAR in the situation in the vide= o. =E2=80=9CTouch and Go Stop and Go, Low Approach (Practice Low Approach)= =E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ccleared for the option=E2=80=9D are absolutely legal=20= and as in this case authorized. See Section 4-8-12. BTW there was no flying=20= over any houses. I=E2=80=99m sure as a Designated Examiner you use these aut= horized approaches all the time for training purposes.
 
Jon
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