>Not to knock HPAT, but you just can't do in an aircraft what
>the professional pilots do very regularly in a simulator.  

Maybe this is the key.  Has there been any good Legacy or IV models
created for MS Flight Simulator or X-Plane?  What about the FAA
certified simulators?  It would be excellent to have a simulator that
can give us some kind of an idea on how these planes fly under different
circumstances.  If we could get an FAA certified simulator to run these
models, then we could get instructor training in our logbooks.   It
won't be like the Jet guys, but it's a start....

Kevin