X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:49:49 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [69.146.254.20] (HELO arilabs.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3088461 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:23:00 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.146.254.20; envelope-from=Kevin@arilabs.net Subject: RE: [LML] Anatomy of an ATC violation case (T Storm Avoidance) X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:22:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C90462.7E67B853" X-Original-Message-ID: <7141427652BB3049A7DBF1084B67805B1E29AB@penumbra.arilabs.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Thread-Topic: [LML] Anatomy of an ATC violation case (T Storm Avoidance) Thread-Index: AckEXjymfXAbzHAWTm2KpCgbtGPTWQAAmD1Q From: "Kevin Stallard" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90462.7E67B853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My Father (an airline pilot) was once riding in the jump seat on a 727 years ago departing out of Miami. =20 =20 ATC put them on a course directly for a big nasty looking thunderstorm. One of the pilots requested a deviation and got a "standby" response. Time went by, with no deviation from ATC. As they got closer and closer, my Father suggested they tell ATC they were going to make a turn now and that ATC had one last chance to influence the direction -- right or left. I guess I won't be so afraid to declare an emergency. I should also probably pay attention to equipment that can document what I see for future (and likely) defense purposes.=20 =20 I was talking with a gentleman yesterday about kit building, FAA scrutiny and the like and he said that it seems that the FAA is trying to enforce rules without regard to circumstance, just blanket enforcement. With requiring controllers to tattle on pilots to reversing direction on kit building enforcement, I hope this is only a small temper-tantrum designed to garner attention, and that it will pass and things go back to normal again.... =20 Kevin =20 =20 Pilot Counsel: Anatomy of an ATC violation case ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90462.7E67B853 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anatomy of an ATC violation case (T Storm Avoidance)

My Father (an airline pilot) was = once riding in the jump seat on a 727 years ago departing out of Miami.  =

 

ATC put them on a course directly = for a big nasty looking thunderstorm.  One of the pilots requested a = deviation and got a “standby” response.  Time went by, with no = deviation from ATC.  As they got closer and closer, my Father suggested they = tell ATC they were going to make a turn now and that ATC had one last chance = to influence the direction -- right or left.  I guess I won’t be = so afraid to declare an emergency.  I should also probably pay = attention to equipment that can document what I see for future (and likely) defense = purposes.

 

I was talking with a gentleman = yesterday about kit building, FAA scrutiny and the like and he said that it seems = that the FAA is trying to enforce rules without regard to circumstance, just = blanket enforcement.  With requiring controllers to tattle on pilots to = reversing direction on kit building enforcement, I hope this is only a small = temper-tantrum designed to garner attention, and that it will pass and things go back = to normal again….

 

Kevin

 

 

Pilot Counsel: Anatomy of an ATC = violation case

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