X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:02:49 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.12.143.101] (HELO imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3086167 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:30:27 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id q.c7d.320adda5 (34905) for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA022-885948acd33e50; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:30:22 -0400 Received: from webmail-nc07 (webmail-nc07.sim.aol.com [207.200.67.28]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA032-5bbb48acd3373b1; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:30:16 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] FAA and Lancair Accidents X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:30:16 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.188.79.57 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CAD14CFB3D2B51_96C_8127_webmail-nc07.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38491-STANDARD Received: from 68.188.79.57 by webmail-nc07.sysops.aol.com (207.200.67.28) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:30:15 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CAD14CFAF3424C-96C-4096@webmail-nc07.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO ----------MB_8CAD14CFB3D2B51_96C_8127_webmail-nc07.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dan, Its not the EAA's problem, as you point out, it is our problem. Many type groups have type clubs-- maybe it is time for that here. If we don't solve the accident problem the FAA will. Think Robinson R22 and the SFAR. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Dan Ballin To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:11 pm Subject: [LML] FAA and Lancair Accidents It appears that the FAA has taken notice of the recent spike in Lancair accidents.? They evidently talked to the EAA in an effort to come up with a solution and EAA's Earl Lawrence, who is supposed to be on our side, basically told them that the EAA did not want to get involved.? My understanding is that Joe Bartel's is now tasked with coming up with a solution as the "aircraft manufacturer". I have some concerns not the least of which is that Joe didn't manufacture our planes, we did.? We should be the ones to "come up with a solution" or at least be in the loop.? Obviously regulated training may or may not be a bad thing, but without any input, I can't imagine this is going to be good. I would propose that those that have some connections, confirm this story and that we as a group should put some pressure on the EAA to get involved. Dan Ballin LEG2 #286 N386DM (reserved) ----------MB_8CAD14CFB3D2B51_96C_8127_webmail-nc07.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Dan,

Its not the EAA's problem, as you point out, it is our problem. Many type groups have type clubs-- maybe it is time for that here. If we don't solve the accident problem the FAA will. Think Robinson R22 and the SFAR.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Ballin <dballin@gmail.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:11 pm
Subject: [LML] FAA and Lancair Accidents

It appears that the FAA has taken notice of the recent spike in Lancair accidents.  They evidently talked to the EAA in an effort to come up with a solution and EAA's Earl Lawrence, who is supposed to be on our side, basically told them that the EAA did not want to get involved.  My understanding is that Joe Bartel's is now tasked with coming up with a solution as the "aircraft manufacturer".

I have some concerns not the least of which is that Joe didn't manufacture our planes, we did.  We should be the ones to "come up with a solution" or at least be in the loop.  Obviously regulated training may or may not be a bad thing, but without any input, I can't imagine this is going to be good.

I would propose that those that have some connections, confirm this story and that we as a group should put some pressure on the EAA to get involved.

Dan Ballin
LEG2 #286
N386DM (reserved)
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