X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:04:50 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp117.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.64.90] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.4) with SMTP id 3001904 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:04:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 18529 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2008 04:04:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO paulrzm5oth3zt) (pbricker@att.net@76.206.248.200 with login) by smtp117.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2008 04:04:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: G3dEwGEVM1mE_O7o7xdVAys7fLzxpCsYSU6lnW_mvgFTcdFGk_ydDQbJcVQ3eRpFA2oDlzBcsCp0VJPZ6x8SZAP2O3TBKxmwEk5_n1XrUuWTORnYnaopLg0oS2KgMvE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Paul Bricker" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Photos X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:04:14 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <008601c8dcc1$db943060$6601a8c0@paulrzm5oth3zt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjcuaJL4xQdSBh8RiuNQnvYGv/85wAAY7JA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: The upholstery looks good but I'd rather not mention in this forum who did it. The workmanship of the owner and his two workers is great but as a businessman he is a disaster. It took 4 MONTHs for the interior, primarily because the guy spent my deposit finishing jobs in front of me, and then strung me along promising what he would have done the following week. When I finally figured out what was happening 6+ weeks were lost. I spent the remainder of the job being in his shop 3-5 times a week making sure he was working on my plane. (He was always taking short side jobs just to keep the doors open). One week I and the other person who had a plane in the shop wrote checks directly to the workers to cover payroll so they would keep working. I would go and pick up material, paying for it then myself, and deducting the cost from the balance due. The carpet distributor insisted on CASH as he had been burned before by my guy. He wouldn't even take MY check. While this might be an extreme example it doesn't appear to be that unusual in the upholstery business. My lesson learned is you need to check out not only the workmanship and quality of the shop, but also get RECENT references of jobs he just completed, and talk to them. If you can, don't follow the industry standard practice of 50% up front, and 50% at the end. I would try to pay sufficient to cover the material up front (20%?) and then have some way to very the material is bought and warehoused. Then pay in 2-3 increments based on progress, withholding about 20-25% to pay at the end. This will help provide you protection that your material has been bought, and it should help the owner by easing his cash flow problem caused by holding 50% to the end. Hindsight is 20/20. Paul N63PB Happy but wiser -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Colyn Case at earthlink Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:05 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Photos Paul, looks nice! who did the upholstery? ....and how did it go? Colyn -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html