X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:30:35 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web55705.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.110.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with SMTP id 2981027 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:44:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 73840 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jun 2008 16:44:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=pceAZZKdx6jXTvYr4MMROVnS47v5NHPvORAfe5+8T9S87ywTRLOMoC9XBndvcTbEfx8491+n3jXiYxaRmbMtnIUXtZ7TDFEs1nGKZLMF/Dr7opWCCeE1RBfv3WV8Fj2u41nFZXVDhP3Vyi9NFRLlDvXs2wQooq04GISwvwrd4UQ=; Received: from [71.31.139.80] by web55705.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:44:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.24 YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:44:54 -0700 (PDT) From: J H Webb Subject: Re: [LML] Training Advice X-Original-To: Tom McNerney , Lancair Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-640393395-1214239494=:73100" X-Original-Message-ID: <682322.73100.qm@web55705.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-640393395-1214239494=:73100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom,=0A=A0=A0 After thinking about=A0your email=A0for a while, I feel motiv= ated to say something. My late brother-in-law (died may 2003) moved up into= a Lancair IV with low time. I gave him most of his dual but discovered aft= er his death, that he was doing very dangerous behaviours. Because of the s= trength of the Lancair he felt he could do some very scary things to at lea= st me as a graduate engineer and test pilot. One of many things that he was= doing was regularly exceeding the red line in dives (according to a friend= of his that rode with him a lot, as much as 100 kts over the red line). He= lived 60 miles south of me and people who knew us both did not say anythin= g to me about his activities until after he killed himself and 3 others. Yo= u can look it up on the NTSB website.=0A=A0=A0=A0 The bottom line of this i= s I want to strongly convey to you to follow closely the rules and restrict= ions that your flight instructor recommends as the life that you save will = be your own and maybe your loved ones.=A0One of=A0major rules that I gave h= im that he violated is never fly=A0close to a thunder storm (the proper dis= tance varies with the size of the storm and your proximity to the freezing = level). The second rule that he violated was if you have a problem in the a= irplane find out why, fix it,=A0and make sure that it=A0will not=A0happen a= gain. His Chilton had froze up in the clouds in the recent past. =0A=A0=A0= =A0 It (the Lancairs) are great airplanes and lots of fun to fly but as in = any high performance airplane it is very unforgiving of mistakes.=A0 So in = conclusion be careful and listen to your flight instructor (don't think he = is too careful). Remember there are old pilots and bold pilots but very ver= y few old bold pilots. This is the piston powered aircraft version of a cro= tch rocket. =0AJack Webb=0AL360, LIV =0AAeroSpace Engineer BSAE =0AFAA Desi= gnated Check airman for C421, C404 & C310=0AATP, CFI Airplanes & Instrument= s, Multi, & Sea=0ANumerous Jet Type Ratings, Both Small and Huge=0AExperien= ced Experimental Test Pilot both multi and single engine aircraft=0AFormer = Chief Engineering Test Pilot for a Major Manufacturer=0A=0A=0A----- Origina= l Message ----=0AFrom: Tom McNerney =0ATo: J H Webb= =0ASent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:24:05 AM=0ASubject: R= e: [LML] Training Advice=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-640393395-1214239494=:73100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Tom,

After thinking about your email for a while, I feel motivated to say something. My late brother-in-law (died may 2003) moved up into a Lancair IV with low time. I gave him most of his dual but discovered after his death, that he was doing very dangerous behaviours. Because of the strength of the Lancair he felt he could do some very scary things to at least me as a graduate engineer and test pilot. One of many things that he was doing was regularly exceeding the red line in dives (according to a friend of his that rode with him a lot, as much as 100 kts over the red line). He lived 60 miles south of me and people who knew us both did not say anything to me about his activities until after he killed himself and 3 others. You can look it up on the NTSB website.

The bottom line of this is I want to strongly convey to you to follow closely the rules and restrictions that your flight instructor recommends as the life that you save will be your own and maybe your loved ones. One of major rules that I gave him that he violated is never fly close to a thunder storm (the proper distance varies with the size of the storm and your proximity to the freezing level). The second rule that he violated was if you have a problem in the airplane find out why, fix it, and make sure that it will not happen again. His Chilton had froze up in the clouds in the recent past.

It (the Lancairs) are great airplanes and lots of fun to fly but as in any high performance airplane it is very unforgiving of mistakes. So in conclusion be careful and listen to your flight instructor (don't think he is too careful). Remember there are old pilots and bold pilots but very very few old bold pilots. This is the piston powered aircraft version of a crotch rocket.

Jack Webb

L360, LIV

AeroSpace Engineer BSAE
FAA Designated Check airman for C421, C404 & C310
ATP, CFI Airplanes & Instruments, Multi, & Sea
Numerous Jet Type Ratings, Both Small and Huge
Experienced Experimental Test Pilot both multi and single engine aircraft
Former Chief Engineering Test Pilot for a Major Manufacturer

----- Original Message ----
From: Tom McNerney <dudewanarace@yahoo.com>
To: J H Webb <airmale4@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:24:05 AM
Subject: Re: [LML] Training Advice

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