X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:14:36 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta16.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.211] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 2934348 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 22 May 2008 16:50:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.211; envelope-from=super_chipmunk@roadrunner.com Received: from Laptop ([74.75.176.139]) by mta16.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with SMTP id <20080522204940.NMRT10601.mta16.adelphia.net@Laptop> for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 16:49:40 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <0F8F7ACC49A848F6B98881EF3CB2D525@Laptop> From: "Bill Wade" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Circuit Breaker Location X-Original-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 16:49:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C8BC2B.DF418D90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C8BC2B.DF418D90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 8130.2F, CHG 3, page 155: "(6) System controls (for example, fuel = selector(s) and electrical switches/breakers) are appropriately placed, = clearly marked, provide easy access and operation, and function as = intended by the builder/owner." The link for the full document is = http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgOrders.nsf/0/1ba6ee6= 0e8779bd7862572c90063c0ac/$FILE/Order%208130.2f%20incorp%20with%20chg%203= .pdf . This lays out how Inspectors go through the process of approving = an Airworthiness Certificate, including Experimental Amateur-Built. Also, FAR 23.1357 "Circuit protective devices" (d): "If the ability to = reset a circuit breaker or replace a fuse is essential to safety in = flight, that circuit breaker or fuse must be so located and identifed = that it can be readily reset or replaced in flight."=20 While Part 23 doesn't directly apply to Experimentals, if you followed = the guidelines in 1357 I don't see how an Inspector or DAR could fault = you. -Bill Wade ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Kennedy=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 PM Subject: [LML] Re: Circuit Breaker Location They have to be accessible, but not necessarily in sight. The FAA guy = who inspected my plane said I could have put them in my glove box if I = wanted to. His comment is my sole source of info. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 00:53:44 -0400 > From: scott_m_richardson@sbcglobal.net > Subject: [LML] Circuit Breaker Location >=20 > Question for the group: Are there any regs that state where circuit = breakers can be located? I have my hydraulic pump mounted on a bulkhead = behind the co-pilot seat and would like to place the main hydraulic pump = circuit breaker on the enclosure I've built around the pump. This = breaker can easily be felt by the piot but is in a position that it = shouldn't get bumped by things in the baggage area. However, it isn't = particularly visible. Are there any regs that say that it must be = visible - or is this something an inspector might find unacceptable = later? > Thanks for any advice. > Scott > L235-290 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C8BC2B.DF418D90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  8130.2F, CHG 3, page 155: "(6) System = controls (for=20 example, fuel selector(s) and electrical switches/breakers) are = appropriately=20 placed, clearly marked, provide easy access and operation, and function = as=20 intended by the builder/owner."
 
 The link for the full document is http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgOrders= .nsf/0/1ba6ee60e8779bd7862572c90063c0ac/$FILE/Order%208130.2f%20incorp%20= with%20chg%203.pdf .=20 This lays out how Inspectors go through the process of approving an=20 Airworthiness Certificate, including Experimental = Amateur-Built.
 
 Also, FAR 23.1357 "Circuit protective = devices" (d):=20 "If the ability to reset a circuit breaker or replace a fuse is = essential to=20 safety in flight, that circuit breaker or fuse must be so located and = identifed=20 that it can be readily reset or replaced in flight."
 
  While Part 23 doesn't directly = apply to=20 Experimentals, if you followed the guidelines in 1357 I don't see how an = Inspector or DAR could fault you.   = -Bill=20 Wade
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 = 8:48=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Circuit = Breaker=20 Location

They have to be accessible, but not necessarily in = sight. The=20 FAA guy who inspected my plane said I could have put them in my glove = box if I=20 wanted to. His comment is my sole source of info.



> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> = Date:=20 Wed, 21 May 2008 00:53:44 -0400
> From: scott_m_richardson@sbcgl= obal.net
>=20 Subject: [LML] Circuit Breaker Location
>
> Question for = the=20 group:  Are there any regs that state where circuit breakers can = be=20 located?  I have my hydraulic pump mounted on a bulkhead behind = the=20 co-pilot seat and would like to place the main hydraulic pump circuit = breaker=20 on the enclosure I've built around the pump. This breaker can easily = be felt=20 by the piot but is in a position that it shouldn't get bumped by = things in the=20 baggage area.  However, it isn't particularly visible.  Are = there=20 any regs that say that it must be visible - or is this something an = inspector=20 might find unacceptable later?
> Thanks for any advice.
>=20 Scott
> L235-290
>
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> For archives and = unsub=20 = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html
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