Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #47260
From: Tom Gourley <tom.gourley@verizon.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Crash, fueling nozzles and training
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:35:42 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
"check this out for training.....
http://www.aerobats.com/seminar_02-07.html "
 
I can't dispute the results shown in the video, but I gotta wonder.  I understand that a steep bank with low airspeed results in a high turn rate, i.e. completes the turn in the least amount of time, but it leaves no margin for error.  In a real engine out situation, high pucker factor, probably distractions, maybe some turbulence, lots of adrenaline, is a 60 degree bank with the stick pulled back so that you're getting some stall buffeting really a good idea?  I don't think so; especially not in a Lancair, and probably not in several other types of aircraft.  A few years ago I watched the pilot of a Mooney 231 attempt to make a steeply banked turn to a runway after loss of power at low altitude.  (Yes, it turned out to be fuel exhaustion.)  He was trying to turn a total of 120 - 135 degrees.  He had turned about 90 degrees when the right wing and nose dropped noticeably; a stall-spin entry.  He stopped the rotation immediately with opposite rudder but was too low to fully recover.  The impact was fatal.  I think an off airport landing with the aircraft under control would always be better than an uncontrolled descent.
 
Yes, I realize an AOA would help tremendously in this situation, assuming the pilot isn't completely paniced and is capable of flying the AOA accurately.  Training and practice sounds like a good idea.
 
Tom Gourley
 
 
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