X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:31:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 5.2.2) with PIPE id 2869680; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:26:38 -0400 X-WinmailDat: 1 attachments extracted. X-ExtScanner: Niversoft's Winmail.dat filter Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.96] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTP id 2869693 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:26:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.62.96; envelope-from=olsen25@comcast.net Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HD101Z00N0Fqzac590NU00; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:23:39 +0000 Received: from s7600y ([24.9.103.222]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HHRh1Z00C4nuWhU3U00000; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:25:46 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=K3DTZakRxGgA:10 a=TfEsyVzJ25MA:10 a=uAskAYgc8wBpC-4I5xsA:9 a=Vvn0FLYn0y9vUM172wbrPF1NSjMA:4 a=9UqEH6auAWYA:10 a=OJsMOstnXAqDm3RXHk8A:9 a=EFmXdnOYrZjSbxzBGlN9iVcIRz0A:4 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=iMLNeuXpVkEA:10 From: "Dan & Kari Olsen" X-Original-To: Subject: Hard to start 320 - impulse coupling problem? X-Original-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:27:43 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <000001c8a5cb$ec151d50$6501a8c0@s7600y> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8A599.A17AAD50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acily+ung9h4/LhfQb22DFk3eJWWDQ== X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 000000002A53747BD59EC3498CE16313BEC028F5C48F3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8A599.A17AAD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LML Gang, Would love some troubleshooting help on this one... Engine: Lycoming IO-320-D1B (stock), 330 SNEW, Slick mags (4373 on left, 4370 on right) Situation: Hard to start. Starter cranks just fine, engine coughs and sputters once in a while but doesn't want to start. Sounds very similar to being flooded. I thought this was a new phenomenon but now that I think about it I was in Phoenix recently and it did a similar thing but I chalked that up to starting technique since field elevation there is 1,500' and I live in Colorado at 5,000'. Diagnostics Performed: * Checked timing on mags. Both are dead on at 25deg BTDC * Checked impulse coupling. I did this by pulling all plugs out of the cylinders and then connecting the 4 that are driven by the left mag. Slowly turned the prop and saw each of the 4 plugs fire off with the "snap" of the impulse coupling. * Checked plugs for fuel wetness and fouling. All plugs were dry and very clean. * Replaced all plugs and tried to start again. After much cranking and sputtering it finally caught and ran. Once running everything is perfectly normal. No abnormal behavior and normal leaning behavior, mag drops, fuel pressure, etc. * Performed several shut downs and restarts. Very difficult to start after much cranking every time. Never just fired up like it used to. Thoughts So Far: * I am suspicious of the impulse coupling. Even though it appears to be working I wonder if it is fading or shutting off when the starter spins the prop but the regular ignition mode of the mags does not yet have enough energy for a solid spark. I just don't know enough about these Slick mags to understand the failure modes. * First suspected fuel delivery but not any more since the engine ran just fine once it started. Also, when cranking the VM1000 shows a fuel flow of approx 3-6gph, depending on throttle and mixture setting. The VM1000 actually measures flow through the line, not just pressure as a proxy. So, does anyone out there have experience with the Slick mags and impulse coupling failure modes or know how to better test/isolate? Any other ideas? Thanks! Dan Olsen LNC2 - N320DK Fort Collins, CO ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C8A599.A17AAD50--