X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:11:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web65406.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.9.26] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with SMTP id 2866169 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:09:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 99952 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Apr 2008 22:09:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=OZZdhsQ4cjPQmmnD9Bksnch/BVM/Ej994iqv/bMikFoij+QwIoDmLOwp5pnTDDMH5998ucwl2Vr0VvvhB076SJq2dLZlMUNYiXtvWffMBSdU/0q3o3DcKy3eNpb5Cx4MpsOcnig7+ac7qTe+JCM1hkjt99WdZ/b1u9zi7TzO750=; X-YMail-OSG: rHXFDkIVM1mvSoz1jmwnVdbVw6FfWJ167hol6FQVTseZxFJp14fSoBDHq.JkKYrVyzpUj39Xvp3a6VXVp115_4PrC0YHfqJMX7KprNWHQ5m3sj.p4QSUvcZsCg-- Received: from [24.39.231.241] by web65406.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:09:53 PDT X-Original-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:09:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Reeves Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy crash - speculation X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1020538025-1208815793=:98840" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Original-Message-ID: <469043.98840.qm@web65406.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> --0-1020538025-1208815793=:98840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeff, That's true there is a big difference between what people are taught and what they do and sometimes that could be good or bad, depending on their gut and the circumstances. I only hope I would make the appropriate decision based on my situation and all that I have been taught. Although all of my instructors taught me to crack the door open in a Cessna or Piper if you're going down, they also taught me NOT to actually do it unless you are really going down, just review it in your mind and on your checklist. You don't want to create a problem if you don't have to - for example - suppose you have a student going through a checklist, he flies the plane, does his emergency checklist, picks a landing sport, and actually cracks open the door and it flies off and hits the tail - slim chance but those hinges are cheap and flimsy on a Cessna. You are entirely correct though. Matt marv@lancair.net wrote: Posted for vtailjeff@aol.com: Matt, I give checkrides as designated pilot examiner and have yet to see anyone crack open the door on a simulated engine out landing during a checkride. In fact, many private pilots do not complete the entire checklist. There is a BIG difference between what pilots are taught and what pilots do. Jeff -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --0-1020538025-1208815793=:98840 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Jeff,
 
That's true there is a big difference between what people are taught and what they do and sometimes that could be good or bad, depending on their gut and the circumstances.  I only hope I would make the appropriate decision based on my situation and all that I have been taught.
 
Although all of my instructors taught me to crack the door open in a Cessna or Piper if you're going down, they also taught me NOT to actually do it unless you are really going down, just review it in your mind and on your checklist.   
 
You don't want to create a problem if you don't have to - for example - suppose you have a student going through a checklist, he flies the plane, does his emergency checklist, picks a landing sport, and actually cracks open the door and it flies off and hits the tail - slim chance but those hinges are cheap and flimsy on a Cessna.  
 
You are entirely correct though.
 
Matt
 


marv@lancair.net wrote:
Posted for vtailjeff@aol.com:

Matt,

I give checkrides as designated pilot examiner and have yet to see anyone
crack open the door on a simulated engine out landing during a checkride. In
fact, many private pilots do not complete the entire checklist. There is a BIG
difference between what pilots are taught and what pilots do.

Jeff



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