X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:53:34 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta9.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.199] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.1) with ESMTP id 2830640 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:31:29 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.199; envelope-from=glcasey@adelphia.net Received: from [76.89.163.133] by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20080403143128.GALU25784.mta9.adelphia.net@[76.89.163.133]> for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:31:28 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-43--854904065 X-Original-Message-Id: <4E42F068-43F1-4E80-8D72-1E896479EF15@adelphia.net> From: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Want List X-Original-Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:30:46 -0700 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) --Apple-Mail-43--854904065 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I suppose there could be lots of reasons for wanting a non- turbocharged IV - one would be cost. If one were to build the plane simple and light you could end up with an honest 2,000-lb empty weight, at least 300 pounds lighter than many IVP's. Then if you restrict the gross weight similarly - and extend the wingspan a bit with the winglets I would bet that the runway performance would be equivalent to most IVP's. I think there are a lot of straight-wing IVP's flying at a gross of over 3400 - I estimate you will have better takeoff performance than them. And the speeds at 10,000 ft or lower might be just as good or better than a IVP. Sure, the high altitude climb gradient won't be as good, but a lot of people do almost all their flying below 12,000 feet. In summary, while there is no such thing as too much power (or is there?), reducing the sea level power from 350 to 310 doesn't get it into the "not enough power" realm - if the weight is kept to a reasonable level. Just my opinion. Gary Casey On Apr 3, 2008, at 3:00 AM, Lancair Mailing List wrote: > Lancair Mailing List Digest #2301 > > From: N66mg@aol.com > Date: April 2, 2008 9:09:11 AM PDT > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: Want List > > > Builders, > I'm looking for a Lancair ES cowling and a cable drive speed > brake, I already ready have a motor. Any one out there have one > that they don't need. Bought a Lancair IV-P unfinished kit and not > going with the TSIO-550 or pressurized version, just using a > Continental. IO-550. > Michael Giardino > Cell 310-678-4068 > Work 310-541-1512 > E-mail n66mg@aol.com Posted for vtailjeff@aol.com: not a good idea-- not enough HP for a IVP, IMHO Jeff --Apple-Mail-43--854904065 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I suppose there could be lots of reasons for wanting a non-turbocharged = IV - one would be cost. =A0If one were to build the plane simple and = light you could end up with an honest 2,000-lb empty weight, at least = 300 pounds lighter than many IVP's. =A0Then if you restrict the gross = weight similarly - and extend the wingspan a bit with the winglets I = would bet that the runway performance would be equivalent to most IVP's. = =A0I think there are a lot of straight-wing IVP's flying at a gross of = over 3400 - I estimate you will have better takeoff performance than = them. =A0And the speeds at 10,000 ft or lower might be just as good or = better than a IVP. =A0Sure, the high altitude climb gradient won't be as = good, but a lot of people do almost all their flying below 12,000 feet. = =A0In summary, while there is no such thing as too much power (or is = there?), reducing the sea level power from 350 to 310 doesn't get it = into the "not enough power" realm - if the weight is kept to a = reasonable level.

Just my opinion.
Gary = Casey

On Apr 3, 2008, at 3:00 AM, Lancair = Mailing List wrote:
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = Lancair Mailing List Digest #2301

Date: April 2, 2008 9:09:11 AM = PDT
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Want List


Builders,
=
I'm looking for a Lancair=A0 ES cowling and a = cable drive speed brake, =A0I already ready have a motor. Any one out = there have one that they don't need. Bought a Lancair IV-P unfinished = kit and not going with the TSIO-550 or pressurized version, just using a = Continental. IO-550.
Michael = Giardino
Cell = 310-678-4068
Work = 310-541-1512
Posted for vtailjeff@aol.com:

=A0not a = good idea-- not enough HP for a IVP, IMHO
=A0 = Jeff

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