Return-Path: Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.4]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA27619 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:42:58 -0400 Received: from ReganRanch@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id 8PBAa09043 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:42:40 -0400 (EDT) From: ReganRanch@aol.com Message-ID: <77f363ba.35f15bf0@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:42:40 EDT To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: Caveat Emptor X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 61 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> In a message dated 98-09-05 00:27:18 EDT, Guy writes about Dans prop adventure: << You should get the old bearings back when you pick up your prop. Take them to a bearing house like King Bearing and price them directly. It's a rare bearing that is unique to one product. >> Don't bother. The bearings used in the MT props are proprietary. The likelihood that a worn bearing would cause a grease leak is minimal. This is because of the design of the MT hub. The propeller is assembled to the hub by inserting the blunt end (ferrule) of the blade into the hub past its normal position. A split angular contact bearing race is installed into a groove in the ferrule and individual balls and spacers are packed into the race with grease. When in its normal position, the blade is retained by the balls. A large snapring, visible from the outside, in conjunction with a fitted plastic spacer, hold the bearing tight when the engines ON-OFF switch is in the OFF position. When the engine is making noise, centripetal force loads the bearings. A single O-ring keeps the grease in the hub and water out. SO how is it that a bad bearing can cause a grease "leak"? Any bearing wear would manifest other symptoms like uncontrollable prop RPM or excessive blade rock (>1/8 inch). If the hub or ferrule were out of tolerance they would have replaced them. No, the simple answer is that Dan experienced a normal phenomenon, described it as a "leak" to the prop shop who "fixed" it by lightening Dan's wallet to the tune of $1,600. Normal phenomenon? Yes, when the hub is assembled grease is used liberally in the process and the O-ring is not a perfect seal. During the first hours of operation it is normal for the grease that ended up in the O-ring grove to migrate out onto the blade. Later in life, environmental and operational "events" will allow a small quantity of grease to escape. USE COMMON (uncommon?) SENSE. If you see grease on the blade root, investigate it. Check blade rock and monitor the performance of the constant speed system. If everything is normal then wipe off the grease and fly on. If the leak is persistent or copious then replacing the O-ring (a $2 part) on that blade may be in order. In general, remember that the aircraft repair business is like any other and has its share of practitioners that are quick to replace serviceable parts. Let the shop know in advance that you will want to be there for the tear down and inspection and that you will want to know why the manufacturer required that part to be replaced. Early MT 3 blade props are part compatable with McCaulley props. The basic design of the MT is good, IMHO. Regards Brent