X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:39:53 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 2775599 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:21:47 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.70; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ix7szdql72cxmtoajfCs6S72RzidbvcGx8dGW5djT67MRGqM6nojTT3JREU8QTP9; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [216.57.118.94] (helo=ccaselt2) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JWKu6-0001ow-3l for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:21:10 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <00b401c87d8d$a5ecf610$ae0311ac@nvidia.com> From: "Colyn Case on earthlink" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] IV-P Empty Weights X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:21:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da94042f5da077bfaade58f14f51fc74e9d5d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.57.118.94 Ed, Mine is 2327 without paint or interior things that make it heavy: - full feathering metal prop - 2 full elect systems - 8-pack old school instruments - extra old school avionics: gmx200, wx500, ryan tcad - ski tube - aux fuel tank things that make it less heavy - slow build wings - minimum use of resin My legal gross is 3650 but from talking to other pilots I doubt I will fly it that heavy. ...or I should say I doubt I will want the CG back far enough to get it that heavy. If I had it to do over again I would: - wet as much of the wings as possible - get an advanced pfd (chelton or garmin) and minimum gyro's. it's lighter and has a lot less wiring - use lighter components in the elect. system - use a composite constant speed prop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janie & Ed Smith" <2luv2fly@cox.net> To: Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: [LML] IV-P Empty Weights > Saturday Evening > 3/1/08 > > Group, > > I was wondering what range of empty weights the finished airplanes > (IV-P's) are having. We have done a preliminary weighing of our IV-P with > TSIO-550, Hartzell prop and AeroCool air conditioning and are coming in > around 2400 lbs. I asked Charlie Kohler what he was seeing and he > mentioned that 2250 lbs was the "norm", but I didn't mention air > conditioning when I asked the question. > > I also saw a post from Jeff Liegner some time back and noted that his > gross weight was 3800 lbs, which is what I had in mind. > > So, I would appreciate any input from you guys who have "been there - done > that". Sounds like I built a "heavy" airplane, but not much I can change > now - except build another one! > > Thanks in advance. > > Ed Smith > Chesapeake, VA > N9JE > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html